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[00:00:34] Speaker A: He's dead.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: His drugs belong to me.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: Seems y'all can't keep normal happy. So I'm your new boss now?
[00:00:41] Speaker B: Nah. No.
[00:00:42] Speaker C: You think Monet happy kids.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: When I brought it up to her.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: She threatened to kill me.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: What's stopping her from killing us, too?
[00:00:47] Speaker A: I found out last night that sax working with the vets.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: I'm sorry, but I can't ask for protection for you now.
So are you quit about Effie.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: He broke up.
Effie Morales, you are under arrest. What fucking for? Attempted murder. You stated that Miss Morales kidnapped you.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: And pushed you into an icy river.
[00:01:07] Speaker B: That is what you told me to say. They played you. Blowing the plug. This is done, Junior. Mom, this pamphlet in the mail, it's.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: From that lawyer, Cooper sex.
[00:01:17] Speaker C: It's time for Monae to go, D.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: What are you asking me right now?
[00:01:20] Speaker C: Put two through the window and drive off. I told Drew and Kane I never.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: Saw the killer's face.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: You tried to kill our mother.
[00:01:31] Speaker B: You almost killed me, too.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: Anya covered, too. Your daughter. I got people with eyes on her.
[00:01:35] Speaker C: Perhaps you've flown too close to the sun, love.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: What the fuck did you do? I told Noma that you were threatening her daughter. This bitch been wanting to do this for a long time.
I think I took one of those fuckers out. Yo, B. What the fuck? How did you know? Obi, call me. Something about green cards. What do we do now, man? I don't know. I think we just started a fucking ward off.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: That wasn't my dad. That wasn't my dad.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: The white auntie? Jesus Christ, Zeke, what the fuck?
[00:02:07] Speaker B: That ain't your fucking auntie. That's your mother.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: Mo, what the fuck is she talking about?
Now's not the time to act like you know what the fuck you're doing, all right? Cause I know you don't. Listen up. I killed my dad to save my family, aight? Drew, Monae, Diana, Mecca will go after all of them if he don't kill Lorenzo. And he'll make sure you're the last one so you can see all of them die right in front of your face. You know what type of nigga he is. You don't have a choice. Just like I ain't have a choice. So just get ready, man. Cause after this shit, you ain't never gonna be the same game.
You really think you could do this shit without me? Half of this shit going on.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: And welcome back.
Hey, we are back once again for another episode of your favorite show.
And I am off on all of my prompts. I don't know what the hell going on here. All right. If you want to join the conversation, jump in the comments or email us. Eggsgritsignorancemail.com. i'm your host, the 9th one. I'm here with Eb and Vaughn. Tonight we are talking about episode 401 entitled I Don't die easy, man. How y'all doing today?
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:03:21] Speaker C: Good. What's going on?
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Shits and giggles? What's happening?
[00:03:27] Speaker A: I'm in love with the plug.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: You're in love with the plug?
[00:03:32] Speaker C: What did the plug bring you?
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Drama.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: The plug brought you drama?
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Yeah. You know I like toxicity.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: That's what it is.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: So you like it, but you don't like to be in it?
[00:03:48] Speaker A: What you mean you like, if I like it, I like to be in it.
[00:03:54] Speaker C: You weird.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: How's that?
[00:03:59] Speaker A: I. I'm just acknowledging my flaws, that's all.
[00:04:07] Speaker C: Hey, at least you accountable for it, right?
[00:04:09] Speaker A: Right now, I ain't say all that.
I ain't do shit.
[00:04:13] Speaker B: Let me. Let me.
[00:04:14] Speaker C: Let me ask.
Did the season premiere, episode 401, did it live up to your expectations? Did you kind of foresee this happening?
[00:04:27] Speaker B: It depends. It depends on your expectations. What were your exact expectations of this?
[00:04:34] Speaker C: You know, let me say.
Let me say ending season two. Was it season three? Ending season three.
I did not expect all of them to turn on Tariq, especially effie.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: You talking about in the season finale?
[00:04:53] Speaker C: Season finale, yes.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: We didn't actually.
I think more or less, more than anything, Effie's feelings were hurt, especially when Tariq, like, kind of cut her off when he got. When she got out of jail.
Tariq kind of said, yo, you know, you do this on your own, you build yourself back up. Like, he didn't bring her back into the fold. And I think, in essence, I think that's Tariq's character flaw. I think Tariq's character flaw is the same one that was. It's the same as Ghost own was. You know, they said apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. And Ghost always felt like he knew what was better for everybody else. And in some instance, and in most instances, he didn't. As well as I thought towards. Especially towards season three of the flagship power, Ghost really became extremely selfish. It was about what he wanted rather than what was best for everybody. And Tariq is so tunnel vision on his family. He sold tunnel vision on, yo, I gotta get my mom. Just don't. Nothing else matter. It doesn't matter what Braden has sacrificed for this friendship. It doesn't matter that the fact that Effy kept her mouth clothes while she was in jail. Don't none of this other stuff matter except for what you want? And it's almost. And I don't think it's malicious. I think it's more or less more him only seeing him only seeing what he can see in. In that particular moment, at that particular time. Hey, what's up, sue? She said, stopping by to say, hey.
[00:06:25] Speaker A: What'S going on, yo? But I think that when it comes to Effie.
When it comes to Effie, he's always giving her the benefit of the doubt.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: I mean, 100, she keeps doing him dirty. No, she does not.
[00:06:41] Speaker C: She's very disappointed. Yes, yes, yes, yes. She's very disappointing.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Oh, no, no, no.
[00:06:48] Speaker C: I don't agree.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: You have to understand the person that she is. Effie has not had anybody in her life to truly love her at all.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: That don't make it right.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Even Tariq. Even Tariq didn't.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Didn't fully love her, but that don't make it right.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: What you mean? I'm not saying. I'm not saying there's a right or wrong. I just think that you gotta understand where she is. She understand that she lives by a particular code, but she also looks out for herself. Like she was in jail. She was in jail.
[00:07:19] Speaker C: She definitely looked out for herself.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: But now, now, let's pump the brakes on that first. She does look out for herself, but when she was in jail, was she looking out for herself?
[00:07:29] Speaker A: She was trying to. She was trying to, but. But they asked her. No. They asked her to do that.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: No, no, no. Who asked her to do what?
She.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Regardless, that was the plan. She was part of the plan to get to.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: Didn't Effie go to the girl and told her, like, you gotta know the.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Girl, not Diana, um, what's the girl name? But she came. She. She went.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: No, she gotta remember she locked up. Everybody came to her.
Everybody came to her.
[00:08:11] Speaker C: Okay, I agree. She wasn't for self when she went to jail. She wasn't for self when she went to jail. She was looking out for the whole. I think she had the holistic picture in mind of everybody.
However, I was disappointed when she turned her back on Tariq. I was disappointed because after that long car ride and she knew she fucked up, that her time to redeem herself to him, and she didn't.
That's just my opinion.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Even though she didn't redeem herself. And she played herself and she put herself in all those positions that she did by choosing her code over, over. Everybody else, when it came down to it, she was just going. She was going to pull a two bit. She was going to sit in jail and do whatever and get her own lawyer and stuff for those consequences, according to what was going to happen.
They came to her and brought her back in like, yo, do this, you'll get out, you'll be free, blah, blah, blah. And then she begged the nigger when she get out, in her own way, to be back in. And then when she realized that he wasn't going, she chose herself. That's why she walked off. Well, she was not. She was not bitch. She stand ten toes and I respect her hustle, you know what I'm saying?
[00:09:49] Speaker C: But even when.
What's his name? Monet, son, what's his name?
[00:09:55] Speaker A: Kane.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: The Bob Kane. Even when Kane, when they went in there, pretended to be her lawyer, she was like, nick, what the fuck you doing?
[00:10:05] Speaker B: I'm good, I'm good.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: I don't know, man. It just Effie, every effie is too. And I understand that she comes from being broken, but she's too loyal to herself.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: How would you be?
[00:10:32] Speaker C: You don't know how to play her.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: You know when you just. Like you said, when ghost wanted what ghost wanted, that's what him that's made him.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: But that's more of a Tariq trait than an effie trait.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Nah, it's Effie the same way. That's why them two pieces in that pie, bro.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: But that's the best. The exact reason. No, Effie. Tariq is. I think Tariq is out of sheer narcissism. Hers is more out of survival. Effie's own.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: It doesn't matter which bus you take, if you end up at the same stop.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: No, Effie's is about survival. She has to protect herself.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Like, it doesn't matter what bus you take. If you go into Penn Station and two buses end up at Penn Station, you still the same.
[00:11:21] Speaker C: They're two. They're two in the same two and the same. Just different matter.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: I don't. I don't agree with that. I just don't agree with that.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:11:31] Speaker C: I just think she's a wild card right now.
But we're going to talk about her a little later on down in the, in the. In the show because she kind of redeemed herself a little bit.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: But yeah, no, no, listen. She loves Tariq more than Tariq loves her. And that's all that showed.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: That's a honey. Tariq definitely loves himself and what he wants.
I think by the end of this episode he's seeing that he could fuck with Braden more.
Um, yeah, he got a more, more trust in Brad Braden.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Well, Brayden, I think.
And we'll look, we'll get there.
[00:12:12] Speaker C: They need each other right now.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: They need somebody right now. They need. Jesus.
[00:12:22] Speaker B: What I thought would listen, what I thought would have been dope. And if you listen to the show, please email the show. Grits and ignorance. Mail.com please. I'm sorry. Eggsgritsignorancemail.com. go ahead and email the show or drop it in the comments right now. I thought it would have been dope as hell if they could have somehow incorporated. Yo, we got to get out of town. Let's go to Chicago. And they go to Chicago and kind of get together with, you know, Tommy said he wouldn't help them, but you.
[00:12:55] Speaker C: Can'T tell me trying to get shit.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: I'm just saying, like, you can't tell me that would, that wouldn't have made.
[00:13:02] Speaker C: More sense trying to get Chicago in New York. In New York and Chicago.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: Listen, the show gotta end.
[00:13:11] Speaker C: Each other for the longest.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: What I'm telling you right now, I guarantee you it would have been more. Guarantee you that these niggas end up in Chicago anyway.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: But you, but tell me, tell me that. Don't sorry. Tell me that. That does not make way more sense than what happened. Like, then what you like.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: But you know what? I think that they did, because they're young, they got to find their own. Because if you realize if you watch an episode, these niggas don't got a pot to piss in. They can't hustle. They don't got no legit money.
That's the one thing Ghost and Tommy.
[00:13:52] Speaker C: Had was they don't have a plan B. They don't have no plan. They have no agenda.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: They have nothing.
They need that one thing that they can always fall back on.
Ghost and Tommy had the laundromat and the fucking club.
They. So no matter what, they can always make.
No, they need jobs.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: No, I think that's, they could be jobs.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: That's what they need.
[00:14:25] Speaker C: Set jobs too far jobs. Not even in the, in the picture.
[00:14:29] Speaker A: No, but now, but think about it.
[00:14:32] Speaker C: They need muscle now.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Think about it, please. If the niggas with all the muscle.
[00:14:40] Speaker C: Can'T kill, they don't, they don't know anyone.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: It doesn't, it doesn't matter.
[00:14:46] Speaker C: A federal agent.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: I. So everything costs money. Everything. Cause money. You don't got no hustle to make money.
You need a job.
How you. How you gonna get to the next bag with no income?
[00:15:05] Speaker B: All right, well, let's. Let's get into it. Let's get into it, cuz we. We about to be here forever.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: I'm telling you, it makes sense.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: I'm just saying, like, I think that, you know, the story could have made a whole lot more if they would have done it a particular way.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: That's just, you know, we read a black novel right now.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: That's just. That's just my feeling. All right. Um, basically, the episode picks up where the season three finale left off with Tasha trying to kill Monet.
Tariq was supposed to be helped by Drew and Diana, sparked an all out war that spills basically got into this season. Tariq intended to abort the mission to kill Monae, but his mother, Tasha, to his surprise, swooped in.
Swooped in. Fire and gunshots at monetary, leaving her in critical condition. Drew and Diana, who had a plan of their own, switched up on Tariq and rallied Kane and Noma, whom Monet was working with, working for. Against Tariq. Just like that? No. McCain, Drew, Diana, and even Effie. As you said, pop pops in as another enemy of Tariq, surrounding him when Braden comes in, one gun against 30 and somehow has another gun, slides to Tariq. And then they get out of there. And we end up with this scene here when they get out of there.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: Well, that shit didn't fucking work. We gotta figure out how that explain be. Got enough bread to get out of town.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: My fault. That's not. That's the wrong scene. My bad. That's actually the scene that comes after what we're gonna get into.
So.
No, that's not the first scene. So when they. When they finally come up with this plan they think of to get Noma, Noma's daughter. What do you think? Um. What did y'all think before they went. Before the plan was actually executed? Like, what did you think was going to happen?
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Nothing.
I saw crickets. I can't even front. I didn't think these niggas was gonna pull anything off. Why?
[00:17:18] Speaker C: They were wide open.
It was. That was a weak scene to me.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that seems so.
[00:17:24] Speaker C: The direction that it went in. Yeah, that was an awful scene.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: They. They did. They came up with a plan with the car.
[00:17:32] Speaker C: They did a poor job.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: So my biggest question for that scene was, why did they not shoot from two different angles? Why did they come in together?
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Wait, hold on. And why was there just a random truck with keys in it?
[00:17:45] Speaker A: No, there's always random things in fantasy land.
Because you gotta remember, at this stage, as much as I love power in this stage in the series, this is fantasy land.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Because at the end, like, I can say this, a lot of this.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: I like all the killing.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: I think that's why raising Canaan is probably my favorite. It's not my favorite. Of the power of the power franchise. The flagship power is definitely my favorite of all.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: But of the spinoffs, raising what's playing now. Yeah.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: Well, we get the watch of the spinoffs.
Raising Canaan is my favorite because it's the most realistic. The shit that happens in that, like, I.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: They have to be factual for you to relate to it.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: It's. And this shit is just not like two niggas is eight, nine.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: This is. Yo, this is why I say our generation is. The next generation is doomed because our kids are living in Toy Story and fucking fortnight.
That's all I was thinking about was fortnight.
[00:19:07] Speaker C: I think it's.
No, I think it's so much they're trying to get done in such short time that they are blending like they are skipping over, uh, scenes to get to the point.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: No, I don't think it's skipping over.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: Skipping over something to know.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: They're cramming scenes.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: I don't think.
[00:19:29] Speaker C: No, it's cramming. They're cramming everything into.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: I think it's ten episodes. No, my thing is, I think it's fantastical. Like, it's. It's not. It does not seem like this is a real realistic thing. We have to eight, because to read.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: I think you apply more fantasy to this than you apply more realism. Like, I could see this happening.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: These are. These are 218 year olds at best. Because, remember.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: Yeah, give 19. Because they did two years of college.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: No, this is all in one year, son.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: No, cuz the first year was fucking Zeke.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. No, what I'm saying is they gotta.
[00:20:13] Speaker A: Be at least sophomores.
[00:20:14] Speaker B: They gotta at least be. But remember, Tariq wanted to graduate in one year. That's why he was taking that class. That's why I'm telling you. So that he can get to his thing. We have not reached summer yet, son.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: No, we did, because we gotta. Remember dorm room and then. And then. No, they lost the dorm room.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: No, that was the end of first semester. We're in second semester.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: No, because sister is gonna come in second semester.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Second. Trust me, son. Check it, check it.
Yes, she transferred in. It's not. She transferred. No, she didn't know.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: She did not. She was still in fucking.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Transferred. From a different college. She did. It was not that she graduated. She transferred from another college. Like, she's. Remember Diana came in second semester because she met Terry. Semester.
Second semester. Okay, sir.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: No, she. She went to St. John's first.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: No, not.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: She transferred in.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: Not Diana. Diana went straight to, um, what you call it. Diana went straight there because, remember, the dad was trying to ease his shit. He was like, yo, now you ain't got to worry about doing that St. John's stuff. We gonna allow you to go straight to the school that you want to go to.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: She went to St. John's. She went to St. John's first because she was like, monet was pissed. Monet was like, since you want to go to school, you ain't going to Stanfield. You going to fucking St. John's.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: Going to St. John's.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: But she started and then she transferred in. She did transfer them. Efficiently transfer them.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: And so in second semester. Go look the timeline up, man. Like, I'm telling you, it's not accurate.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Everybody's sister not.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: It's not here.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: It's definitely not second year. It's second semester.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: How you figure? When niggas was killing niggas in winter.
[00:22:25] Speaker B: They still said it's still coat. Like they. They got coach on still and Scully's.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: No. That nigga put on the hat so he could look like a killer. And he looked like.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: No. Okay, at the end. At the end. Look at both of them boys. Both of them boys got coats on. Obi got on the coat.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Obi always having a fucking.
All right, whatever next?
[00:22:53] Speaker B: Nope, cuz. Now I'm looking it up.
[00:22:55] Speaker A: But you can look it up, cuz. I know I'm right. It's gotta be in four and four seasons. This nigga do one semester.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: Oh, he did two. This is the second semester. I'm telling you, cuz. Remember the thing starts out Diana, and.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: Tell you, this shit got to be like you.
[00:23:17] Speaker C: I think it's a semester. I don't think it's second year.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: It's the second semester. It's not second year. Because Tariq said that he wanted to get to his. His inheritance. And the best way to do that was to take that canonical, that conical studies class. And that was a one year extensive class that would help him get to his degree in one year.
And that is why he did that. So he could get his inheritance, his trust fund.
Oh, ninja. Since I can't curse on here, ninja.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Okay, but how is it that you had three different teachers?
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Because. Oh, they died. One committed suicide.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: Not really.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: One got.
Okay, well, two got killed.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: Two got killed.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: And now you on your third one.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: Yo, this. This is why. This is fantasy.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:24:14] Speaker C: Okay, that's neither here nor there.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Because you can't. You can't have four seasons in, and that's one month.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: The timeline is. The timeline you can't help is horrible. So they. They decide to go after Noma's, um, Noma's daughter, Anya. That does not work. Um, uh, she actually's attending. And they find out she's attending NYU, and that is when we get to this scene.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: Well, that shit didn't fucking work. We gotta figure out how to explain.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: Vy.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Got enough bread to get out of town now.
You think Davis could help? I mean, possibly. Motherfucker probably deals with shit like this all the time.
Hello? Did he tell you why they all. He didn't say. I just know my family's been through enough, and now Brayden's in trouble.
[00:25:09] Speaker B: I don't really know how much more.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: No, you hit her, I got your sister.
[00:25:14] Speaker B: We'll be a PN 90.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: You and Tariq show up, get Becca Beck killing her.
Drew? What the fuck is going on? Drew has Becca. Shit.
Think they should do. All right, this could be a fucking setup. Eat. I gotta get my sister. Just call Davis and see what he would do. Brayden, they're at pier 90. You getting it or not? Come the fuck on, bro. Think about this shift, Braden.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: They have Becca. What was your thoughts on this whole kidnapping thing? Cause Diana wasn't fully in. And this new version of Drew, I kind of like. Like he done told. I kind of do. I'm a killer. And then he told Diana, yo, if she wakes up talking about Monet, if she wakes up, smother her. Like, I like the new Drew. The new Drew is like, yo, I'm all in. I am what poppy said I would be. I'm a killer.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: He an angry ass pussy.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:26:20] Speaker C: Um, Diana straddling defense. I. I think he is still hurt because what Monet and Diana is. He's looking at Diana like, yo, what are you doing?
Well, Diana get up for everybody. For all.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: I mean, we all know Diana is emotional, right? And Diana wanted Monat killed until Monet saved her life.
When Monet saved her life, then she was like, oh, you know what? I don't want her dead.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: You know my. You know what I get out of this? My big question.
Why are we taking suburban kids and putting them in the streets?
[00:27:08] Speaker B: She's from Queens, man. She ain't no suburban.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: No, no, no. They from, like, Jamaica states. Monica.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: They.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: They. They live in a house, and they always lived in a house. They not from the streets.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: It's better than being from northeast South Carolina.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: I understand that. But them when you from. It's different when you from the field, in the woods. I respect them country folk. But when you not from no dirt, why you want to be having your kids do dirt? I like what Noma's doing when she taking her kid and saying, no, you focus on school. I don't want you involved in what I do.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Um, and let me say this, although I like what Drew has become. He's one of the dumbest kidnappers fucking ever. It's all cheese. He's one of his kidnappers ever. Like, he is moist.
[00:28:05] Speaker C: Huh? Oh, say what now?
[00:28:08] Speaker A: Called the boy said he's moist.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: Say that again.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Wet behind the ears. Moist.
Good God. I said he's moist.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: I can't find the drew.
[00:28:22] Speaker C: No, we're not doing it.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: I'm telling you, Drew.
[00:28:28] Speaker C: Drew is moist and saturated.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: He is a punk.
He is a punk. He is a punk. He's a punk. He, like, he can't. He is.
Yo, I wish Raquel was Monet.
So rock out to tell him what they all are.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: Break them down, Monet.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: Break them down today. Elements. No, she only know she only breaks down Kane.
She only. She only breaks down Kane, bro. You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:03] Speaker C: I gotta get Monet only break down, um, Lou.
I mean, not Monet, but rocky breaks down Lou.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: No, she break down, um, what's the name, too, but. But she don't really have to do that with Marvin as much, because Marvin just ready to do whatever. You know, I'm saying.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Marvin be ready. All right, well, we thought, hey, let's. Let's get to moving.
Becca eventually, pepper sprays Drew, escapes from the car.
She makes a run for it, and eventually finds Braden, who just arrived in the suv with. I don't even know why. How. How did he know where she was?
[00:29:46] Speaker A: Like, he told her compared pier 90.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Yeah, but who know? But it was in the back of a pier. Like, come on.
[00:29:55] Speaker A: No driving around looking.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Okay? I give you that.
Drew.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: That was the one bit of realism, okay?
[00:30:04] Speaker B: I give you that. Drew is, you know, he's shooting at Braden and Becca, but before he can really get a good shot off, what happens? Tariq comes through in the truck, slams into Drew's car, injuring him. Drew limbs out of the car.
These two are, like. These two are, like, this far apart and shooting and don't hit each other.
[00:30:24] Speaker A: Listen. Now, you see they real gun skills because they shoot as if they're delusional.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: What?
[00:30:35] Speaker A: Any other time as well. Any other time as well. They shoot as they're delusional.
Now, I'm saying, unless it's like I said in a group test, if they not up close and personal, they can't hit the broad side of a fence. I'm telling.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: But they were up close and personal.
[00:30:53] Speaker A: No, not really. But I mean, you got to give them both concussions. They did drive into each other, but. But at the same time. Yo. What? I'd have been hopping out the car. See, I would have hopped out the car.
It was way she said it was wet. It was. I was just before impact. I would have called.
It was. I said it was.
I would have jumped. I would have jumped out the car right before impact because he driving an old truck. That shit ain't got no airbags. You know what I'm saying? Did one of them fantasy land rolling tux hopped up and out of cap drew in the car before he got out?
That would have been a better scene because I want to see one of these Tejada die.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: Now, back at the western home, Braden's brothers getting the dog snot beat out of him.
Did you somewhat think this was an unnecessary seat? Because to me it was slightly unnecessary. No.
[00:32:06] Speaker C: I don't think it was unnecessary. Actually. Think about it. Do what's his name.
Can't think of games now. What's Cain? No brain is heated because. Oh, Cain is heated because somebody tried to kill his mother. All he knows to reach brothers are together.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Yeah. He was beating the devil out of break trace.
[00:32:29] Speaker C: Right. So I don't think it was an unnecessary scene.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: Yo, I think this showed a lot because.
I think it showed a lot. Think about it. What monet say two and two equal five.
Boom. So Kane shows up making two and two equal five. Attacking the wrong people for nothing.
Right.
But with its purpose.
[00:32:58] Speaker C: He doesn't know that.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: No, no, because he's stupid. My point and what it does is it shows in that scene how Braden has is getting his back turned on him by his family, which is what Braden needs. So Braden can fully commit to being the gangster ass suburban white boy that he is. No.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: So, but I mean, you're. The argument you're making is that it was a necessity to happen to further. To further along the plot, the story that we going.
[00:33:36] Speaker C: But I don't.
[00:33:38] Speaker A: It goes along with.
[00:33:40] Speaker C: Because his family was already dising him anyway.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: That's.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: No, but, but no. They were distancing theirselves, but they were probably also pulling him in because you got to remember, they got that whole western Holden thing going on. They still need to stay together as a family. You know what I'm saying? Now, he needs to be pushed out so he can become the beast that he need to be. But also it's a necessity to show that how much Canaan needs direction. I mean, Canaan Kane needs direction.
Cain ain't shit. He but muscle.
[00:34:17] Speaker C: He's out there.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: No, he's stupid.
Yo, when he tried to get Lazen.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:34:29] Speaker C: Go ahead. Hold on. Say what you got to say.
Okay.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: I was just gonna say when tried to get the plug. When he tried to get the plug before they killed him. When they handle plug before no more.
He got this, cuz. He got no way. He didn't know how to talk to the motherfucker. He ain't know how to talk to that motherfucker into doing what he wants.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: Stupid.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: Then his mama tell him he's stupid. His mother tells him he's stupid and he still don't believe he's stupid. Then he goes and does this, which is stupid. When he should have been listening to Noma and going back to the crib and getting passed up in healing so that he can go out and attack to read. Clear minded.
[00:35:14] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's not. That's not Cain. Cain doesn't operate.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Cane is stupid because he's taken.
Because he's muscle and he's stupid. So I want to go back to what you did.
[00:35:28] Speaker C: I mean, last season. So when Braden uncle, you know, when Braden pushed his uncle over. Over the top, you know, that story just ended. No one said anything about it.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: Not suicide.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Suicide because it was a suicide note.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: The only person, the only person that knew that went down like that was Tariq and Kiki.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: And Kiki. How old?
[00:35:55] Speaker A: I like Kiki. Women in the hot.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: She went to the crib.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Kiki went into hiding because she implicated in the Ponzi back in so they could get some real legit money in a pockets because they broke his. Hell, two broke ass college students running around trying to get it.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: They need a job. Where they gonna work?
[00:36:22] Speaker B: I don't know.
Davis McLean is visited by Noma.
[00:36:27] Speaker A: And Obi was visited by someone else earlier, too.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: That's why he's my winner of today's blessings.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: I'm gonna keep it pg for your brother. Blessings.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Completely, completely blessed. All right.
Noma ends up putting $100,000 bounties on both Tariq and Brayden. It's moments before that that Noman Ob has Davis pointing the gun at them. He rejected the $200,000 offer to give up Tarikin, Braden, Kane, and Effy, though.
And this odd romance. Romance that I just don't understand what.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: I'll be talking about using each other.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Effie love. No, no, no, no.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: I'm in love with Effie's gangster too. I like Effie's gangster.
[00:37:30] Speaker C: Okay? Effie, she with the shits with him. She played him bad.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, when they was looking for. When they was looking for Tariq. And she knew to get. She knew they was close to Ric. What she did, she takes like, yo, you got to hit out. We here to get you. Yo, get ghost.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm about to. I'm about to inbox this nigga to read and ask him how much ding dong he put down on Alex.
Yeah.
I want to know. Because she's stupid for him. This character is stupid for him. Tasha was not stupid.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: I'm gonna tell you else is stupid, and he paid for it.
My man Obi, man. Obi Wan Kenobi.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Yo, ain't nobody giving me a buck 50. And then I'm gonna profess myself to you.
[00:38:29] Speaker C: I'll be trying to stay under the radar.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: Was trying to get them cheeks. That's what he was.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: He trying to be the one.
[00:38:42] Speaker C: Oh, you talking about the dude come out? The dude that did the poetry. Is that him?
[00:38:48] Speaker A: No, no, no. Obi is Noma's right hand.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Noma's right hand man. You don't remember when they was right? She was like, yeah. And you need someone to be there for you.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: I am that one.
[00:39:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:04] Speaker C: She told him to get out.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: She told him, stop thinking with his dick.
That's why I'm in love with the plug.
[00:39:20] Speaker C: Okay.
I don't know this. I mean, it was a lot of. It was a lot of action in this, but it just. I don't know. I just don't like how it all came together.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: It was.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: No, they use. They use action scenes to build a storyline, because they did. They don't have enough time to talk.
[00:39:38] Speaker B: Well, I think, like Gordon Ramsay says, his things.
The plate was fragmented. It was like.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: It was this, right? Yeah.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: That's a fact seen here. It was this action scene here, but there was no dialogue that brought it all together to make it a cohesive entree. So to spear. Because it wasn't enough for us to feast on as a season premiere, I think they could have done a good job. You could have had action, and action could have come. It didn't happen.
[00:40:11] Speaker A: But you see how it. Look, how it plays out, though.
You can enjoy a disjointed plate of food, because think about it. Tariq takes out the next motherfucker that's gonna be on his ass, which is.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: The Valdez boy does, is bring somebody else to be on you.
[00:40:34] Speaker A: Right?
[00:40:35] Speaker B: But, Mike, I don't think that.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: I don't think that the Valdez boy. I don't think the Valdez boy was a strong enough character to chase to read.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: No, I think he know. I thought that would have made more sense than what they're about to do. I think him, in a sense, because I think it would have tied it in this final season. It would have tied into the power final season, whether they decided to, which. Which would be great. If they got a chance to kill Tariq. Oh, my God. If they killed Tariq in this and the final episode of this, it would be not saying that it would be justice, but I think that it would be such an amazing link to the flagship power. And I think that the fact that Valdez, the lady Angela, was chasing all of these was chasing ghost, only to find out that it was ghost right in front of her.
Now you got the second generations of these two characters, one pursuing the other. Again, I thought that it would have made. I I. I thought they killed him too soon. If they were going to kill.
[00:41:48] Speaker C: I did, too.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: I think I was. Yo, that was my number one scene in the fucking whole show.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: No, I'm not saying it was a bad scene.
Yes, we're getting number one.
[00:42:03] Speaker A: Well, I'm sorry, number two. Number two, I digress, number two.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Although that scene was a good scene, I thought that scene was better fitted. Maybe episode six, maybe episode nine.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: I can't had these valve deserts hanging around, man.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: Or even the coveted episode. What episode?
[00:42:22] Speaker C: What's going to happen?
[00:42:23] Speaker A: He's not going to be innocent.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: No, he's not. He wouldn't be an innocent. But I think that in that sense, that would have made more sense to me as to him. For him to avenge his aunt's death, so to speak. Whether ghost was the one who actually pulled the trigger or whether her being in ghost life is the reason that she died is more of a thing to pause and the Valdez family than anything else. This boy became an FBI agent because of what his aunt did.
Well, no, he was. He was an FBI agent.
[00:43:01] Speaker C: I just know.
I don't really don't know where this story, like, I don't know where it's going because it's just seem like everything is backwards.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: I don't know who you.
[00:43:12] Speaker C: Valdez got killed too soon.
Now, what's the detective, the lady name? Her name?
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: Blanca.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: Blanca.
[00:43:22] Speaker C: She.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: Yeah, Blanca.
[00:43:23] Speaker C: Blanca. Blanca wanna dad it. Blanca doesn't even want to investigate anything more because everything has been a daddy. Now, think about it.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Yo.
[00:43:32] Speaker C: Now that Valdez has passed away, is giving her something to now reopen this.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: So Jenny don't even want no part. She did.
So that character is gone.
[00:43:45] Speaker B: Jenny.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: She's out.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: What?
[00:43:49] Speaker A: You know, Jenny, I. So there needs to be something to bring this to an end.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: But also remember what I think Jenny got played. But I think if Jenny never got the note from sacks that told her, beware of chasing the white whale, she would never have walked away. She would have stayed pursuing this. She would have continued to try to pursue this. But the fact that it was her actions, she could not protect Sachs.
There's guilt there. And the fact that Sachs sent her a note saying, look, I chased this white whale for my entire career. And look where it got me.
If you're here, quit now. Do not let this overtake your life. Do not let this be the end of you. Do not let this continue.
Don't let it continue.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: No. All I know is that I feel like they needed a better antagonist or someone to fuck shit up.
Only thing I didn't like was the introduction of that character. Because it's like, who the fuck is Denise? Who's your wife? Like, what is your wife have to do anything?
[00:45:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And, I mean, this is Don Carter. He's a rising NYPD officer who was on track to become police commissioner until his wife was killed in a cross fire between rival drug gangs. Detective Carter.
He's basically church. After a moment of prayer, when he runs into pause and Angela's sister and Julia's mother. Distraught in tears, pause tells Carter that her son was suspiciously killed after investigating through St. Patrick. Though the FBI thinks junior's death is a random school shooting, pause assure there's something deeper at play. Carter seems to agree and promises to arrest whoever.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Is it me, or was Michael E. Lee walking a little too hard for a light skinned brother?
[00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he had a little.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: He like extra dip in his dip, like homeboy. You got green eyes, like, relax, buddy.
You know who you be. Yeah.
Michael Ely, though I do like Michael.
[00:46:08] Speaker B: Before we get into our last segment here, there are some things we didn't discuss. One of the things is what did you think about Monet's trip?
Or time in the way out of body experience?
[00:46:23] Speaker A: No. Well, she was in purgatory.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: That's it. Purgatory. Yeah, her time in Purgatory.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: What.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: What was your thoughts on that? I thought you. Vaughn.
[00:46:35] Speaker A: I did. Because I'm gonna go in.
[00:46:37] Speaker C: I think my favorite. My favorite part is when, um, Zeke came back for her and said what he said. I think she's trying to make everything that she did wrong. She's trying to find a right in it to not give up or give me the second chance or I'm not gonna. You know. I got work. I still have work that needs to be done. And I need this life to continue.
[00:47:04] Speaker A: She don't apologize for nothing.
[00:47:08] Speaker C: She did.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: She did not.
[00:47:10] Speaker C: What? To Zeke, she did. Well, kind of. Kind of.
But what I didn't like the fact she was like, I need to live for my children. That's what. That part right there, I would like. Fuck you.
Well, I didn't like. I didn't like that part.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: Well, let me say.
[00:47:30] Speaker A: But she gotta say honest, because. Because I was waiting for her to say that to the other two.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: All right, hold on. Let me. I'm gonna play this clip, then we'll talk about it.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: That I did this.
[00:47:47] Speaker C: That and the third.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Y'all don't know shit about my life. Your ass was in jail when I was holding it down. And your ass was a mistake that.
[00:47:53] Speaker C: Made me a survivor.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Now I'm about to tune both of y'all dumbasses out.
I ain't dying today.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: Stubborn ass bitch. Right to the end, huh?
[00:48:04] Speaker A: Same problem I had.
[00:48:06] Speaker B: But your life is gonna get cut.
[00:48:08] Speaker A: Short before you can right your wrongs. Motherfucker, you killed Zeke. That shit is unforgivable.
[00:48:13] Speaker B: And you did what you always do.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Added hurt on hurt. You took away your children's father.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Well, now, to be fair. So she has been hurting her kids since birth. Got em losing their souls to these streets.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: Look, I didn't get us in this street shit, but I damn sure made her survive it. You've been telling yourself that lie for so long, you're beginning to believe in your own bullshit.
Think about it.
I wasn't here when this drug operation really took off, now was I? This is all you.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: But you wanted it all for yourself.
Chop a ball.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: I agree with that shit.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: I agree with that wholeheartedly. When this drug thing took off, I was in jail. You did this.
[00:48:58] Speaker A: My thing is this.
And I. And I wholeheartedly believe this.
My game is my game.
If I'm selling drugs and doing what I got to do to make sure that my family is good. And that's what I respected about ghost is I'm not bringing you into this game. No matter how much you begging me to learn and begging me to do this. You shouldn't even know what the fuck I'm doing. All you know is you got food on the fucking table. I'm here for you when you need me.
And I do what I do, huh.
[00:49:39] Speaker C: Has gotten over, you know, they're, Monet, get over it. Like.
[00:49:45] Speaker A: No, no, she's a typical woman that gives. No, she's a typical woman that gets trapped into doing things to survive.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: No, I'll give it a. I don't, first off, relax. On doing things to survive.
Let me, let me, let me say this on that sense. It's like, like to be, to be, let's, let's be real here, Vaughn. Vaughn's a single mom, and she's had to do things to survive, all right? And she didn't bring her son up in the streets. My mom, your mom, you know what I'm saying? People had to do things. My grandmother, you know what I'm saying? I know a lot of single moms and people who've had to do, you know what I'm saying? And they did not take their kids. Now, whether we.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: That's what I was saying. I'm not saying that she involved in.
[00:50:35] Speaker B: Her kids is right now, whether we ended up in the street or not, that's a totally different story.
But at the end of the day, like, watching my grandmother get up and ride that two train to work every day, watching my moms get up and do that, your moms getting up every day and driving that bus, it was to make sure that we didn't have to do the shit that they, the stuff that they had to do, you know what I'm saying? To give us an opportunity to have a better life, they gonna grind so that we can have a better life. Like, Monet took the easy way out. I'm pretty certain. I'm pretty certain that my mother could have found somebody to help her get into the game and do all of that stuff because my daddy was in the game, you know what I'm saying? Pretty sure your mom could have done the same thing. I'm sure Vaughn knows people who are in the game that could have got her an opportunity to do that. So I can't absolve Monet of anything here. Monet is a typical narcissist. They don't believe, and I hate to use the words narcissist, because it's a hot button word right now, but at the end of the day, you're blaming everybody else for the stuff that you've done. The reason you're sitting here in this purgatory, looking at yourself, about to die, dealing with your demons, because, remember, what's being said to her is her talking to herself. It is not. No divine anything. It is her talking to her. So this is her conscience, which is inside of her, letting her know that she is wrong for everything. And even Cl says, my co host on relationship says the worst lie you could tell is the one you tell to yourself. And Monet lies to herself every single day, which makes it easy to lie to everybody else in her life. She. She may. She doesn't have children. She has soldiers. And you heard people, and you've heard other characters on the show say that before. So I cannot absolve her in this moment.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: But that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm only. I'm only giving her credit for making a choice.
Whatever her. Whatever her choice was to survive the moment she involved her kids, rather than allowing them to make choices for themselves, that's where she is wrong.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: Listen, I.
[00:52:44] Speaker A: Only one kid she did that with was Zeke.
[00:52:47] Speaker B: I'm gonna say like this, I respect. I respect them. I don't respect her choice to survive. I don't respect what she did to survive. I respect a woman who decides, hey, look, you know what? I'm gonna find me a job to make sure that my kid does what he. That I'm gonna keep my child safe. Because living in a life your children are never safe. Your family's never safe. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna do what I can do to get there. One, two, I respect a woman that says, hey, I'm going to work this job, and I'm going to get my degree, I'm going to get my education so that I can make a better life for my family, so my kids could see, yo, look, this is what you can do to get yourself over the hump. Excuses are not accepted. There are tools.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: Do you know that? There's a different choice than that.
[00:53:30] Speaker B: No, there isn't. I'm not. I'm saying you cannot. You cannot get credit.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: You.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: She can't get credit for doing wrong.
You can't get credit for wrong.
[00:53:41] Speaker C: You know, monetary, because she's never had a brain. She's. Monet has. She has mouth, and she has built a fear for them to be in her. She wasn't really the brains.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: No, she was brains.
No, I'm saying, monet, I'm talking about in this family sense, in the. In the. To have a family sense. All I'm saying in the toad of.
[00:54:15] Speaker A: Family sense, this is what I believe.
I respect anybody, any. Any survivors choice, whether it's wrong or right, I don't give a fuck. You made a choice to do what you need to do to survive. That's what I'm saying.
[00:54:32] Speaker B: See, but that's me. I mean, you're saying me.
[00:54:36] Speaker A: Hold up. I don't. Let me finish my statement.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: Let me finish it.
[00:54:42] Speaker A: Let me finish it.
All I'm saying is it's your choice.
So once you choose to involve your offspring or other people without them being able to make a choice and where you are wrong, you should never. If I'm a hustler, I'm the hustler.
My kids are in the school now. If they go out there and learn about the world and whatever, whatever, and they become hustlers, I. Cool. Let me show you how this shit is done.
But I'm not doing this for you to learn how I do this.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Well, let me say this, and to refute your point, ghost and Tasha did what they had to do, what they felt they had to do for their family to survive, for their family to make it whatever they needed to do. Ghost didn't. His kid, to go through what he went through, didn't want his kids to go through that. And in essence, they haven't. Tariq chose this life after he found out what his dad did with somebody.
[00:55:54] Speaker A: But I feel like Tasha fucked it up because Tasha told him the game.
[00:55:58] Speaker C: That's what Tasha, when she taught him the game. Right?
[00:56:01] Speaker B: Okay. No, I think.
[00:56:03] Speaker C: Well, Tasha was like, if you're gonna do it, I need you to do it right. That's what.
[00:56:07] Speaker A: Now, what you shouldn't do was let that nigga fail and go to jail.
[00:56:12] Speaker B: In that sense, Tasha did it the wrong way. Because in that sense, Tasha, Tasha did it out of necessity too, now, because.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: Save herself, because she needed a husband, she needed money.
[00:56:26] Speaker B: She's somebody on the street doing stuff. And she used Tariq the way Monet uses her kids.
Yeah, we gotta remember that.
[00:56:36] Speaker A: Same.
If I teach you something, if I teach you how to do what I do, you don't live in my house no more.
[00:56:45] Speaker C: Can we say the same thing about Rock and canaan?
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Yeah. No, but.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: Absolutely no. But Kane is different because Kane and left.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: No, no, no. I don't think we can say about Rocky Canaan because Rock was trying to stop Canaan from going into the life rock.
[00:57:01] Speaker A: But Canaan moved out. Rock Hill kept bringing him back to the house.
[00:57:09] Speaker B: Like, you're not doing this. Like, no, you're not going to be in the street. No, you're not going to deal these drugs. You.
[00:57:16] Speaker A: This is why we said what we said, that raising Canaan is the more realistic of all the fucking. Siri had no choice but to be factual.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: What you feel like?
[00:57:29] Speaker C: I don't know. I just feel like she is part of his problem as well. I think all of the adults with their children have been part of the problem.
[00:57:40] Speaker B: But that's. But isn't it the problem?
Isn't that the.
Isn't that the.
What's the word? I'm off a little bit. But isn't that the.
[00:57:54] Speaker A: Issue?
[00:57:55] Speaker B: No, isn't. Isn't that the issue with life as a parent?
[00:57:57] Speaker A: Yeah. What choice is correct for your kid?
[00:58:02] Speaker B: Like, right now, I have a difficult decision to make within the next. You know, I'm about a month out from having to make that decision, but it's going to impact my kids more than anything. And so which choice is the right decision? Which thing is the right to think? There's the easy choice and it's the difficult choice. It's the thing that comes. That makes my life easier, and it's the thing that makes some difficulties possible, difficulties down the road. So I think that as parents, we don't.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: As there's no rulebook.
[00:58:37] Speaker B: But not only that, how many of us come from. How many of us come from dual family households that are extremely stable? I don't.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: I ain't never seen them.
[00:58:48] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? I. At all.
And so it makes it, you know, being a father thing difficult, being a mom thing difficult, because even if you're a young lady who comes up with a single mom, you. All, you know is this strong woman who's had to do both roles. You don't know. You don't know what it's like to be. What's the word? Like I said, I hate hot button words. But in your feminine energy, when there's a man in the home or when there's two, when there's a dual income household, the lack of the struggle, the woman doesn't have to work as hard. She doesn't have to be in her masculine energy because there's a father in the home dealing with things and making sure that stuff happens. So a lot of us don't get that so we're out here trying to make the best of whatever decisions that we could possibly make. And that's what I'm seeing here. And this is.
I don't think that Monet is making the best decisions that she could make. I think she's making. Once again, she's ghost like in making these selfish decisions. It's about her. It's about the lifestyle she wants, not what she wants to provide for her kids. Because if she wanted to provide for her kids, she wouldn't have given Zika.
But let's. Let's get into Zeke a little bit. Let's get into Zeke right here.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: This is some bullshit.
Oh, my baby. You broke my heart.
[01:00:16] Speaker B: Monet.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: You do this, not what you seek again.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: You never made it right between us.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Maybe I would have, but you died before that.
It hurt like hell giving you away, but it was the right thing to do. I was so young.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Aye, aye, aye, aye.
[01:00:41] Speaker A: It's all about you. You used me.
That was your escape plan. You should have just left me in North Carolina.
Baby, I got you caught up in all this shit. And I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. You know that, right?
[01:00:56] Speaker B: What's that matter to me?
[01:00:58] Speaker A: It matters to me.
It matters to me. Please give me a second chance to do right by Kangen and Diana. Please. Please.
[01:01:08] Speaker B: You really think you deserve a second chance?
[01:01:10] Speaker A: No.
But I want one anyway.
Please let me do right by my kids.
Please.
It ain't up to me.
Can you forgive me?
Can you forgive me, Zeke? I'm so sorry.
[01:01:39] Speaker B: So, from that, we're going to move forward.
Just for those of us that have switched over from Instagram to Facebook. Instagram only allows us to stream for hour long, and we have gone over our time, people. Um, good conversation is always great. Um, but, uh, we're here. This is where we are right now. Um, let's get into it.
Can she make it up? Do you think Monet's gonna come out of this as a totally different person? Or is she gonna be.
She gonna be one of those people that's like, I ain't never getting drunk no more. I swear to God. God, if you take me out of this, I ain't never getting drunk no more. And then they get sober and they're good, and they're like, oh, well, you know, hey, I just said that because I was in the moment.
[01:02:27] Speaker A: I think she'll attempt to, but for the most part, she's going to end up making the same poor choices, because there isn't anyone that is capable of being in control. Because if you think about it, all, all four of them, the tahadas want something different.
Kane want to be the man.
Drew just want to be in love with it, with a stripper.
And Diana just won't be regular, so they all want something different.
[01:03:05] Speaker C: Diana wants a basic, plain life.
Monet is not going to change.
She's, you know, she's having this conversation with her conscience. And the fact I started laughing because he asked, do you deserve a second chance? And she said, no, but I want one anyway.
[01:03:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I respected that.
[01:03:30] Speaker C: She knows she don't deserve a second chance. She's getting. She is going to get a second chance. She's going to get a second chance to try to find out who killed her. Like, she is not. She's going to get worse, in my opinion. I don't see her trying to turn over a new leaf.
[01:03:45] Speaker A: 100%.
100%. But I feel like she should. At some point when she was in purgatory, she needed to accept that she fucked up.
And that's what I. That's the only thing I took out of that whole situation, because I'm gonna take like this.
I love your facts. I love Mary J. Blige. I love Mary J. Bly. She could pour it out in the song.
She could write it, she could sing it. You know I'm saying? But act it out.
Not her strong suit.
I don't get remorse from her at all. Only thing I get from her as an actor is she can be cold, hard. That is it.
[01:04:31] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, do that very well.
[01:04:34] Speaker A: Very well. Very well. Like, nigga, I told you to do this. Go stand in the corner.
I get that about her. But the rest of the remorse, the love, I don't. I don't feel that. And that's not to say that her, as a person, can't love and be remorseful or whatever, but just her acting of it is. Yeah, I've seen better.
We all know Mary not.
[01:04:59] Speaker C: What about David.
[01:05:01] Speaker A: Davis?
Yo, Method man is a horrible actor. I love Method man. Like, that's my dude right there. But he's never been the greatest actor.
Now, he would. I will say this.
If you look at Method man from the how high movie all the way through the different roles that he has played, some have been a little bit more easier because they kind of cater to him. But this one, I think, stretches him the furthest as an actor. And he's admitted himself that he goes to acting classes, so he's learning to be an actor. He's not just bullshitting you know what I mean?
[01:05:43] Speaker B: I think Method man, he had a statement, and they talked about it on the scumbag lounge today. On, in their recording, he said, method man says he'll never. He's never coming back to perform at summer jam following the show. Never again. Never again. At this point, the generation gap is too wide for me, and I think this is where we kind of will see the evolution of Method man as an angle, because I think you do. I think you would continue to do. I think when you're splitting your time, what it says, um, there's only 100% of you. If you're giving 25% over here and 25% over here and 50% over here, nothing is getting 100% of you. And I think. I think he wants to embrace.
[01:06:27] Speaker C: He wants to give 100% of acting.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: Nah, but the breakdown on that, he's not. Yo, who in our generation? Well, I. So our generation is going listen to method man. We're gonna listen to red man, we're gonna listen to Wu Tang, we're gonna listen to Nas. We're gonna listen to all the people that we grew up listening to, our kids going to listen to one 8th of that, and then they're going to develop that into their own taste. So they want to hear the Drake beef.
I'd rather listen to fucking, uh, ether and fucking super ugly.
But when I hit his Drake beef and this, uh, the other one. What, Kendrick Lamar? I'm disgusted by. The beats are horrible. The lyrics are fucking whack. I can't deal with it. It's just noise and they just. And it.
[01:07:28] Speaker B: So.
[01:07:28] Speaker A: But the younger generation is loving it.
So time changes, but.
So in order for method man to survive the rest of his life, he got to get to a different bag.
Acting is that bad?
[01:07:49] Speaker B: Acting is. The acting is definitely that bag.
[01:07:51] Speaker A: So he's not a horrible actor?
[01:07:54] Speaker B: No, no. I just think he hasn't had time to hone his craft.
[01:07:57] Speaker A: He just. The one thing they should not have done to him was make him play drunk.
They should have actually let him get drunk and then film.
They should have filmed that scene because that was the one horrible scene that I saw. But you got to remember what rapper coming up isn't some type of woman. NASA isn't about money. And we already know Methamann used to sell drugs in between film and rap videos. So we know he got the hustle. We know he know how to be a womanizer. But we do know that he is a married family dude as well. You know what I'm saying? So if you let him showcase what he. What he's been through and what he's come through. That scene in the beginning with him being in the shower, more realistic. More realistic for that type of character.
You know what I'm saying?
[01:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
All right, let's get into the quick, rapid fire.
If I still got that drop on here. I think. I think I got it down. I got to put it back.
[01:09:13] Speaker A: I got guns.
That was me.
[01:09:17] Speaker C: Oh.
[01:09:20] Speaker B: Anyway, yeah, we will get this right. Kane and Effie's arguing and make our session were perfectly on brand for them. But Kane will get himself in trouble if he truly falls for Effie, because apparently she is all over the place. She wants to choose him for real. Um, she's still carrying the torch for her old boo. You said what?
[01:09:42] Speaker A: I said she ain't gonna choose him.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: No, she's not choosing.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: She could definitely choose Tariq. Dumb saying. And that's just gonna be a stupid choice, cuz. Tariq is.
You know, I just hope that I can get that.
[01:09:58] Speaker C: I think she's going to help Tariq, but at the end of the day, she's going to choose herself.
[01:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I think she'll choose something.
Now, at what point did we miss Braden and Tariq going to the gun range?
[01:10:09] Speaker A: Because they look really fortnite, Monica.
[01:10:14] Speaker B: They look comfortable gearing up for that sWAt scene like they put on the thing they had put the gloves together.
[01:10:20] Speaker A: Ba ba.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: All right, next one. I feel bad for Paz. She watched Angela throw her wife, her life away, and Junior's ambition got the best of him. Will she wind up having the saddest story in power history?
[01:10:35] Speaker A: I don't. I don't feel bad for Paz.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: You think?
Listen to the question. The question is, do you think Paz ends up with the saddest story in the power universe when it's all said and done?
[01:10:48] Speaker A: I don't care.
[01:10:49] Speaker C: Yes.
Yes.
[01:10:51] Speaker A: Cuz she's been a hater. Fuck her. She'd been a hater from the rip.
[01:10:55] Speaker B: She.
[01:10:55] Speaker A: No, she would not let Ghost get some of that good poom from Angela Valdez. So she didn't hate it from the red.
[01:11:05] Speaker C: Oh. Didn't deserve her sister.
[01:11:07] Speaker A: She should been a hater for the. She'd been a hater from the rip and she'd been leeching off her sister. That's it. Oh, she mooched off her sister. She used her sister to put her son through fucking school, depending on her sister to take care of their father. Like, what good were you did now?
[01:11:28] Speaker B: I will. I hate to agree with Eve on this, but she kind of did.
[01:11:35] Speaker A: You did. If you didn't want your son to follow in you, if you didn't want your son to follow in your sister's footsteps, you should have had a different role model for.
[01:11:45] Speaker B: She kind of. She kind of did. She kind of did. I must.
[01:11:55] Speaker C: I think it's still sad. Sister's gone. Her son is gone.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: I'm elated.
[01:11:59] Speaker B: I'm not saying it's not sad. And my last thing was. And I'm gonna do my research.
My last thing here. And like I said, I'm gonna do my research.
Now, apparently Denise was killed in somewhere in the power universe, and Denise is the wife.
[01:12:19] Speaker A: I'm figuring, like, this is gonna be like, that goes to Tommy prequel story. That's when he got killed. That's where she got.
[01:12:26] Speaker B: Apparently, it's said to have happened already. So I'm gonna research it. We're gonna talk about it on the next episode, but let's get into it. Let's get to our last set of segments. Here we are. Twelve minutes over time, people, we are sorry for taking up your Sunday, but we are almost done. Vaughn, what is your favorite. What was your favorite scene from this episode?
[01:12:46] Speaker C: I didn't have a favorite scene, but I was glad Effie put. Can't put.
[01:12:56] Speaker A: Nothing in the play.
[01:12:57] Speaker C: Oh, Lord.
What's his name?
Brayden. Friend.
[01:13:04] Speaker A: No trace.
[01:13:06] Speaker C: Tariq. Tariq. I was glad that she put Tariq on. On game, that they were there, cuz. Tariq, I mean, he losing it.
[01:13:14] Speaker A: He's losing respect for her.
[01:13:18] Speaker B: Okay, I got a question, eb, before you answer.
Fe. Diana. And what is the other girl name?
[01:13:25] Speaker A: Jeez Louise, she's not a non factor. She's got her family.
[01:13:31] Speaker B: Which one is.
[01:13:32] Speaker A: We did post this question to on Instagram.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: Pose this question on Instagram. Which one is the best fit for Tariq?
Who could you see? Tariq. Marion.
[01:13:45] Speaker A: Only Effie.
[01:13:48] Speaker C: I can't.
[01:13:49] Speaker A: Effie, that's the thing. I say.
I say, Diane, I say to read that girl, understand?
Think about this. Think about it.
Why ghost married Tasha.
[01:14:16] Speaker B: That's the reason. But that's the reason why Diana fits.
[01:14:20] Speaker A: No, it does not. No, no. Take. No. She tried to kill the nigger.
[01:14:26] Speaker C: She didn't take.
[01:14:27] Speaker A: No, she didn't take shit from him. Can't help him in no way. Listen, Diana has not done anything to help him.
[01:14:35] Speaker B: Effie might look better, but Diana's the better fit.
[01:14:38] Speaker A: Nah, it's not about looks. It's not about looks, about looks. It ain't about looks. And let me. Let me answer the question.
Let me answer the question.
The reason I pick Fe is because they.
They don't trust each other. And the only thing that would tie them into each other to make them work together would be their distrust. So they have to like, so the.
[01:15:07] Speaker B: Girls name Lauren.
[01:15:12] Speaker A: But look at Lauren.
[01:15:14] Speaker C: Would have been with him.
[01:15:16] Speaker A: Everything that you. I'm telling you, everything that you are as a parent, your kids absorb that and they are in some way, shape or form going to become that whether you want them to or not.
You know what I'm saying? So ghost should not have ever married Tasha.
But when you involve Tasha in the game, that's when you got some of the best results at a ghost to read. Get his best results with Effie, period. It ain't about who he loves, because you gotta remember, he was.
[01:16:07] Speaker C: Diana.
[01:16:08] Speaker A: Ghost was in love with another person. He was never in love with Tasha.
[01:16:14] Speaker B: He was. He was never loved. I'm not saying that he wasn't loved, Tasha. You don't think so?
[01:16:21] Speaker C: I think he was in love with Tasha.
[01:16:23] Speaker B: No, no.
[01:16:26] Speaker A: No, no.
He did love her.
[01:16:30] Speaker B: He did.
[01:16:31] Speaker A: He was never in love. He married her because she took the weight for him.
[01:16:40] Speaker B: In love? Nah, he was in love with Angela. Whenever you want to risk whoever you want to risk it all for, you're in love.
[01:16:47] Speaker A: That's who you love with.
[01:16:48] Speaker B: That's who you in love with.
[01:16:50] Speaker C: I mean, I think so. What if Anna never came back?
[01:16:55] Speaker B: Angela? No, I think he would have loved. Like I said, I think he loved Tasha. I just don't think he was in love with her.
[01:17:02] Speaker A: He would have still continued to chase Angela to the end.
[01:17:05] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, Evie, what was your favorite scene?
[01:17:09] Speaker C: You know, Angela was the one that got away.
[01:17:11] Speaker A: I didn't gotta say it.
[01:17:13] Speaker B: What was your favorite scene?
[01:17:14] Speaker A: Met the man, first scene. It was my favorite scene. Phone call scene, period.
I'm with you. See the little short one?
[01:17:26] Speaker B: I'm with Vaughn on this. I didn't have a. I didn't have a favorite scene. All of them suck.
[01:17:32] Speaker A: I was second.
[01:17:33] Speaker B: Close.
[01:17:34] Speaker A: Was Agent Valdez getting a bullet in his head.
[01:17:40] Speaker B: All right, winners and losers. Evie, who's your winner? Who's your loser?
[01:17:46] Speaker A: Biggest loser is Agent Valdez.
He didn't build a case. He didn't. He didn't build an erector set a lego, nothing.
Now, I'm Sam, my biggest winner. I'm actually gonna go with Monet on my biggest winner because just because she survived her ordeal, that is it.
[01:18:13] Speaker C: Ok, Vaughn, who you got biggest, biggest losers? Are all of the shooters.
All the shooters are the biggest losers.
But, no, I think my biggest loser is. Is Noma. Noma, to me, is the biggest loser, and that's.
[01:18:32] Speaker A: She lost the love of Obi.
[01:18:37] Speaker C: She's. She's losing and don't know how she's losing it and when. She's always been in control of everything, she's not understanding what's going on, and she's.
She's losing sight of what's going on right under her nose.
[01:18:53] Speaker A: If there's any person that needs to just back out of a situation and go in another direction, it is no more.
[01:19:01] Speaker B: Who was your biggest winner?
[01:19:04] Speaker C: My biggest winner? I really don't have a true winner this season.
[01:19:10] Speaker A: Well, she gave us two losers.
[01:19:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't have a.
Yeah.
[01:19:20] Speaker B: The biggest loser, I think, is Braden losing his family.
I think it's always. No matter what the issue is behind it, it's always difficult when you lose your family, period.
And then my biggest winner, I was going to go with Davis McLean.
[01:19:38] Speaker A: But.
[01:19:38] Speaker B: I think the biggest winner is Monet, because she beat the angel of death, and she's here to live a good fight.
[01:19:47] Speaker A: Except for now. For now. Because you never know what a bullet holes.
You never know.
[01:19:53] Speaker C: It's a lot of losers. Um, uh, Diana, she's a loser.
[01:19:57] Speaker A: Whole episode of losing.
Detective Carter is the biggest loser, too, because he just stepped into a world of shit that he didn't need to be involved in.
[01:20:09] Speaker B: Drew.
[01:20:11] Speaker A: Fuck Drew.
Yo, I would bitch, like, if I was. If I was walking down the street and Drew's character was coming towards me, I would slap him.
I like the actor, though. He's a nice dude.
Yo, did you see that clip before we get out of here, did you see that clip I sent you of what's his name at the premiere?
[01:20:40] Speaker B: No, I just. I just opened up my Instagram and saw that you sent me something. I'm a check.
[01:20:46] Speaker A: He had beef at the premiere poster. He was acting like he does in the show for real. I think a Lou.
[01:20:55] Speaker B: I know. Now, remember, you can catch us.
Don't forget, this Thursday, there's gonna be a new host on Vaughn, and Eb is gonna be joined by a surprise host. New host to the show. And then I'll be back on Sunday at six four.
You know what it is. We're back again for the power recap. Um, we're gonna go ahead and get out here now, Vaughn, tell me how they can find you.
[01:21:23] Speaker C: You can find me on Instagram at one bonchella. You can always find me here kicking the crew on Sunday nights. Now recap in power. And every Thursday, I even tell people how to find doing something.
[01:21:34] Speaker A: You can find me.
You can find me on Instagram. That's b I g k I d, underscore chops. As well as Facebook. You got the eggs written, ignorant page. And I g, don't forget.
[01:21:56] Speaker B: Live on Instagram. Catch the show live on IG. All y'all be on our.
[01:22:05] Speaker A: Only give.
[01:22:05] Speaker B: Us an hour if we stick to the scripts. All right.
You can find me on Facebook at yoshienglish, on Twitter, at I am coachy underscore, and on Snapchat and Instagram at the 9th wonder, as well as you can find me on relationships, that is podcast. We had episode in two months, but we back next Sunday, next Monday and Wednesday. All right, till next time, y'all. We're out.
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