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[00:02:42] Speaker B: That wasn't my dad.
[00:02:43] Speaker C: That wasn't.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: That wasn't my dad.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: The right auntie.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Jesus Christ, Zeke.
[00:02:46] Speaker D: What the fuck? That ain't your fucking auntie.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: That's your mother.
[00:02:49] Speaker C: Mo, what the fuck is she talking about?
[00:02:53] Speaker E: Now's not the time to act like you know what the fuck you're doing, all right? Cause I know you don't listen. I killed my dad to save my family, aight? Drew Monet, Diana Mecca. I'll go after all of them if he don't kill Lorenzo. And he'll make sure you're the last one alive so you can see all of them die, right? You know what type of nigga he is? You don't have a choice. Just like I ain't have a choice. So just get ready, man. Cause after this shit, you ain't never gonna be the same game.
You really think you could do this shit without me? Half of this shit going on under your nose, you don't even see Kane. He replaced Rico's work with sugar just to get you to take him back. Drew, he's still fucking that nigga that dropped him and Zeke's name to the school. About that dead body. And Diana. Diana stole that money on chip off.
[00:03:31] Speaker C: You need you.
[00:03:31] Speaker E: And I need my sister. So what are we doing?
[00:03:35] Speaker B: You about to go to war or some shit? You gotta stop and prepare for war when it starts. You've already lost.
And welcome back to eggs, grits, and ignorance. Present power book episode Power Book two ghost episode 406 entitled the Devil's Playground oh, man, it was a lot to happen. This. This is my favorite episode of the season so far. Season four came back with a storm, still not better than the flagship power, but did come back in full force, and forces coming back soon. And we got origins coming out, and there was a prelude to something else coming out to another one of the flagship. I'm sorry to the power universe shows coming out, but I wouldn't be able to do the show without my team. My boy, even. What's going on, brother? How's everything going? My boy was heaven.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: What's good?
What it be like?
[00:04:48] Speaker B: It be. Is it bees? What it is, man?
[00:04:51] Speaker C: It's been a minute.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: It been a minute. Like, listen, when I was doing the outline for the show, you know, I always date the outlines. And so the actual season premiere, episode 401, when we recapped episode 401, it was January.
[00:05:14] Speaker C: And then we had a lot of technical difficulties with episode five.
[00:05:20] Speaker B: Between it and now there's been a lot of technical difficulties getting the show going. But I. We're back, man. Um, we're here. Yeah, we're here. We know Vaughn to tap in.
[00:05:30] Speaker C: She says she'd be in in a minute.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:33] Speaker C: You know, I just saw a little text pop up.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Her text popped up and it popped. I think I got me on some other shit, cuz.
[00:05:40] Speaker C: No, no, no. It popped up. It said coming.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on the production side of things. I can't look at my phone.
[00:05:51] Speaker C: Inside. I got it.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: But, uh, for those that are listening, this is the track from the, uh. That was a track from the episode. It was called old school love, uh, by light skin Keisha and the crew. And if you notice this, in that scene where Braden is. Is tooted and booted.
[00:06:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:16] Speaker B: We'Ll get to that. Like white boy wasted.
[00:06:22] Speaker C: My big. But my big takeaway from that scene is, is it me or. Dude, does that group suck.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Up front? That song was straight. The song is straight.
[00:06:33] Speaker C: Maybe that song was straight, but when they perform it on stage, it's just a hot mess. It.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: I must say, it is somewhat of a hot mess.
[00:06:42] Speaker C: I'm not a fan, but I'm waiting on Vaughn.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Pick the she. Vaughn is in the green room. For those of us that are Vaughn fans, she is in the green room, and we just waiting on her to get in.
[00:06:54] Speaker C: We got to start a Vaughn fan club.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Vaughn does have fans, so just catching everybody up.
Episode they return. This is the final season of the Ghost spinoff power book. You think this one needs to end?
[00:07:16] Speaker C: Um, yes, I think force needs to end, for sure.
I feel like. I feel like this one needs to end because they do something in there that I just don't like, and it's. They hang on words. So, like, uh, the word. Well, not. Not worth yet. The phrase I hate is apex predator.
[00:07:42] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay.
[00:07:44] Speaker C: I cannot stand watching Tariq say, I gotta become the apex predator. This is how I'll become the apex predator.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:53] Speaker C: And they do that every season. Like, he. It's like they find a phrase and he's like, he's gotta. He's gotta attain that goal. And he doesn't.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: Well, you know, who's. Who's ready to come on in?
It's fun. Aka Miss New.
[00:08:10] Speaker D: New.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: She ain't got no lighting. I don't know what she got going.
[00:08:12] Speaker C: On, but her lips are still blown.
[00:08:16] Speaker D: Let me see what I can do.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Turn the light on or something. I don't know if I got. Turn a light on or something. I don't know what she got going.
[00:08:24] Speaker C: She don't know how to work. She renovating over there. She don't know how to work all this stuff.
[00:08:28] Speaker D: I am. I'm trying.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: But what was your. What was your ranking of this episode? One to ten. What did you give this episode? For those of us that are out there listening, let us know what you ranked the episode one through ten.
[00:08:45] Speaker D: This is a little better.
[00:08:46] Speaker C: That is a little better.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:50] Speaker C: I gave it a.
I gave it a solid seven. Seven and a half. Yeah. I mean, yeah, because it was a lot of killing. Like, you know, I mean, I'm a fan of the killing and the weak ass sex scenes.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: I mean, Tariq gets it in on that twin bed, you know.
[00:09:08] Speaker C: Yeah. They all get it in on that twin bed.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: Well, let me say this. When I was in college, the twin bed was I, you know, as long.
[00:09:16] Speaker C: As you had a mattress topple.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: So I will say they stay true to college life, because.
[00:09:26] Speaker C: I know you was. You did that night we went to Montclair State.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: Yes. I think I was. Excuse my language. I was there.
[00:09:33] Speaker C: I was. I was on the floor. I didn't get. I didn't get the twin.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: Flow. Vaughn, what did you rate this. What did you rate this episode?
[00:09:50] Speaker D: I rated an eight.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: Get it in an eight.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: We got an eight from.
[00:09:57] Speaker D: Yeah, I think I enjoyed this episode. It was a lot of.
So what? I know you said 7.5. What about you, Yoshi?
[00:10:07] Speaker B: I thought it wasn't a ten, but I did think it was a solid eight. I thought it was the best episode of the season so far. I thought this, uh, the midseason premiere was better than the season premiere because the season premiere was fantastical. It was like, oh, no, they had.
[00:10:26] Speaker C: To tell 17 stories in five minutes.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Uh, but I did think that this. This episode did. The storytelling was really good. Um, for each scene was developed. Like, usually they cut scenes short.
It was some unnecessary stuff in there, but I did think that this. This, more than any, was very, very well thought out, well written. The cinematography was really good. I thought it was shot well.
Like I said, I thought it was the best. It's an eight, but it was the best episode of the season.
There are some things in it that I have some questions for you guys about, but I do think that this was the best so far of all of them. And. And even.
[00:11:14] Speaker C: Yo, is it. And I got a question.
Is it me, or is Drew's haircut perfect for prison?
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Oh, no, Drew. Drew was. But you got to remember, Drew is kind of. Drew is reeling right now.
[00:11:30] Speaker C: Like, yeah, I know he going through some things. He going through some things, but his head do perfect in prison. He.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: He.
[00:11:37] Speaker C: He looked like he'd been doing a stretch, and he was only in there for a day.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: But he. He was doing the stretch before he went in.
[00:11:47] Speaker C: The facts.
Yo, ever since old boy, he been out. He'd been out of control ever since he lost his little. His little boy toy. Yeah, that went to play basketball. And then, you know, he had to kill the little spanish dude, uh, Drew, when he met the hit that was, like, the love of his life. That dude went to go play for OKC.
[00:12:13] Speaker B: Yeah, the dude.
[00:12:14] Speaker C: That was it.
And then he killed, uh, Gordo.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Go. Like, but Gordo had become his. It had become the love of his life.
Yeah, but really feeling Gordo now, I.
[00:12:26] Speaker C: Think the big storyline.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: Able to be. No. With Guardo, I think he was able to be himself. Like Gordo was his tasha. I think everybody. If you. If you look at power throughout everything. Throughout all of the. The power universe, everybody has their tasha. The person who allows them to be themselves. Um, where they don't. They don't have the duality. They don't need. They don't need to hide that dual side. Like you say, Evie. Like, everybody has themselves. They never have to hide this particular side of themselves because this person accepts all sides of them. Tariq is Effie with the boy was Gordo. You know what I'm saying?
With. With ghosts. It was Tasha with Tommy. You had.
What's. What's redhead name?
The one that he killed.
[00:13:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I know you're talking about. Her name escapes me.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: Yeah, her name escapes me at the moment. What's crazy is I'm watching for some Holly. That's.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: Yes, Holly.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: But what I want to leave you two to discuss really quickly is.
Is Carter a better? Is Carter a better? Because they introduced Carter as the ultimate. This because whoever is going through, like, from this episode, we only have four episodes after this. Is Carter better ultimate villain than normal?
[00:14:07] Speaker C: Oh, why you had to put it like that?
[00:14:12] Speaker B: No, that's a good question.
We're ending on what's the question?
[00:14:17] Speaker D: Say that again. Is Carter. What?
[00:14:19] Speaker B: Is Carter a better ultimate villain than Noma? Because remember, when Noma comes in, she is strong. She is this, that, and the third. And she's kind of taking the backseat to Carter because in this episode, like, Carter is pushed to the forefront as the ultimate villain that has to be raggled with for the end. For the end of the season.
Ah, that.
[00:14:46] Speaker C: That to me is a tough question because you put in two people against each other that are. That are opposite sides of the coin. Even if it's the same villain coin, it's the opposite side. So they not the same.
But I don't know, if I had to choose, I would choose no more.
I would definitely. I would choose no more as the better villainous because, I mean, even though her shit is getting a little messed up with the business and everything and losing control of her daughter and stuff like that, she still is not to be fucked with. At the end of the day, Carter's still a police. So he got. Even though he operating outside of the rules, he still got rules and regulations that he got to follow. He still got to show his bosses that he's still doing his job correctly.
Nobody got an answer to nobody except herself.
Wrong.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Well, apparently, I think Vaughn is tapped out. Her wifi is tapped out.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: Um, it's renovated.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
Well, I believe.
I think that they did a poor job to me personally, although this episode was amazing. I think they did the poor job of the transition.
[00:16:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Carter came out of nowhere as strong.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: As Noma has been because she came in. Boom. They'll you're like, we need to be scared of her. Like, we need to be scared of Noma. Like, Noma is like the ultimate villain of all the builtin villains and all of the powers. She's bigger than Mecca. She's bigger than Jason.
[00:16:49] Speaker C: Shit. She was back in Mecca, so, you.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: Know, she was bigger than Mecca. She's bigger than Jason. She's bigger than. What was fa's name?
You know, like, from the flagship power. She's bigger than he's. She's bigger than Canaan. Like, she's the biggest villain of them all. And then she is kind of, like, diluted.
[00:17:15] Speaker C: But that's why I said, like, it's too. Even though they're villains. They're both villains, and so, therefore, the same coin, they're on opposite sides. But where's the law on this?
[00:17:27] Speaker B: Well, there is no law.
[00:17:29] Speaker C: Like, there is no law.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: There's no. Which, for the first time, I think, in any of the powers. And von said. Von's having some troubles. The Internet, y'all. So kind of just bear with us as we get that straight. She says she didn't see this coming with Carter. I don't think any of us did.
[00:17:43] Speaker C: Like, nobody. Nobody.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: His wife. Because we didn't get a chance to cover episode 405. But in episode four or five, at.
[00:17:52] Speaker C: The end, like, when he came, when he comes out as a villain, he's.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: Like, yo, uh, that worked for me. Y'all worked for me. Like, I have this deal, and the deal is, you know, if you don't kill any innocent people, you good to go. I'll protect you. You can operate. Um, that's gonna catch up.
[00:18:14] Speaker C: I.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: It already has in this episode. It catches up.
But here's my issue with the show, and y'all tell me what you think you know, when you introduce a new character as what you're trying to do. Remember the law. The law side of it. Even if you go back to the flagship power, who was the first, like, person that really chased them?
It was Angela's boyfriend. What was his name? Um. God, I hate being on the show like this and not remember her name.
[00:18:49] Speaker C: Sat. Not sax. Uh, Greg. Greg Knox.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Greg Knox. All right, so we have Greg Knox, who's. Who starts off as the ultimate, you know, I am. He's the antagonist, because ghost is the protagonist. But we know that your protagonist is the main character, and the protagonist can be a negative. A negative person. Right. It can be someone. Oh, mama checked in. Hey, y'all. Love to see. Love to see you. We're back, too. Oh, Sonia, what's up? Or, Sonia, I'm sorry. So we in this. We have no.
There's no law enforcement agency that is chasing them down, so to speak. So this is the first time they kill them all. Situation. We're going through a situation there. There is no law. Where's the law?
[00:19:47] Speaker C: Yeah, straight up. No law. You know, I'm saying, um, they kill them all. They kill Tate.
They kill Tate. They kill, um, uh, Valdez nephew.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:00] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? And you think.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: I thought he would have come in. I thought I've come in and played a little bit of. Little bit better of a. I thought he would have.
[00:20:09] Speaker C: I thought he was going to be the ultimate good guy. I thought he was really going to be the ultimate good guy. Just like a burnout good guy.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:16] Speaker C: Just in fact, because yo, his sister, the mother comes to him begging for help.
So, yeah, they alluded to something. They alluded to something that doesn't exist. Does. Flat out. Not existential in the show.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: But but here's. Here's what I. Here's what I would say up.
Vaughn is in under you there, von.
Okay. She's working on it.
[00:20:46] Speaker C: Um, here she got the ill buffer.
[00:20:50] Speaker B: She's got the ill buffer. But this I think she's checking in from her phone. Here's. Here's my thing.
You only have an hour, right. You're introducing a new character.
[00:21:02] Speaker C: Right.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: And at the same time, if you're introducing a new character is at the expense of other characters. Which characters didn't we really see in this episode? We didn't really see Davis like that. We really didn't see Braden like that. Those characters stories weren't really developed. And those are major characters throughout this front. Throughout this particular of the flagship.
[00:21:29] Speaker C: Even like Fe to.
Because Fe and episode four, Fe had like no lines.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. Introduce this guy Carter and but to take away from you took away from the Davis the.
And this is the first time that power has done this. And because they've never taken away from the main characters for the introduction of minor characters and I think.
[00:21:59] Speaker C: I really think press they trying to compress two seasons into one.
Okay. This really could have been a fifth. A fifth season.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: But.
[00:22:12] Speaker C: But I'm not saying that I really wanted to watch more of the same, but.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: But then just do.
[00:22:18] Speaker C: But I just.
That's why I'm happy it's kind of over.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: Like, I think that's my.
That's my. That's my.
I think they're sidelining. They're sidelining main characters for what they think they need to do for the plot.
And I think there's a way to incorporate the main characters because you can't tell me Braden's not a main character in this particular spin off of. Of power. Right. He is a main.
[00:22:49] Speaker C: Oh, no.
We know who the main characters are.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: You know, that is a main character.
[00:22:56] Speaker C: We've invested in them.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: We have invested in them 100%.
[00:23:02] Speaker C: Game of Thrones season eight.
Crazy.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: What's up?
I still haven't watched Game of Thrones. Don't. Don't shoot me. But I'm trying. I'm trying.
[00:23:20] Speaker C: Yo, Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon is what it said, bro.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: All right. So right now, I. Me personally, I don't see Carter as much of a threat right now.
Hey, von, you there?
You got to come off. Wow. You got to come off a mute. But are you there?
You got take yourself on mute.
Let me see if I can.
[00:23:45] Speaker D: Okay. Can you hear me now?
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go, Vaughn.
[00:23:48] Speaker D: There you go.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: All right.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: All right. There's von. Go. So now, Vaughn, let's. Let's get your take on it. What is your take on the fact that they have introduced Carter and through them, introducing Carter as this major character, it's taking away from Davis and Braden? And I did want to get your answer to the question is, is Carter a better major villain than Noma, who came in strong, but as kind of fizzled out.
[00:24:19] Speaker D: I don't see him as the ultimate villain at this moment. He just started showing us pieces of who he is. But we have seen Noma from the beginning, how she has ran things and how she has performed and. And how she has overcame and, you know, put herself on top. So the ultimate villain. I have not seen that all from. From Carter just yet. That's number one. Number two, your question was, how do I do what again?
[00:24:56] Speaker C: Eb?
[00:24:56] Speaker D: What did he say?
[00:24:58] Speaker C: Shit. I don't fucking remember my memory. Not what it used to be.
[00:25:07] Speaker D: I did rate episode eight. I did.
[00:25:09] Speaker C: Did y'all hear me say, yeah, we got that. We got that. We got the episode rate.
[00:25:14] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:25:19] Speaker C: I think he was talking. I forget how you freeze the question because I didn't answer what you mean. What was the second other question?
[00:25:26] Speaker B: The other question was, does. Is Noma a better.
[00:25:29] Speaker C: No. No, she answered that question.
[00:25:34] Speaker D: Oh.
[00:25:34] Speaker B: The fact that they are introducing Carter as a major character and taking away from other. The major characters that we've come to know, Davis and Braden. But to introduce Carter as this major character, you have to take away. And then Evie brought up the point of fees, like, really hurt her. They've had to dial her back, and, like, she's only, like, two scenes, I think maybe three.
[00:26:01] Speaker C: One she's crying, and one she's crying.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: On the couch about to get some rub from.
[00:26:08] Speaker C: From big King Diddy, yo.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: From big Kane Diglett.
[00:26:14] Speaker D: So, for me, they have been so many things that has happened, but no follow up in a lot of the scenes. And there's just haven't been any resolution when it came. When it comes to Salim, when it comes to a lot of the people that are no longer in practice or, like, they're. I don't know. It's like their scene gets cut, and no one ever knows how it ended. Like, what's the follow up? What. What's going on? Moves on to the next.
[00:26:45] Speaker C: But you know why that is?
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Why you.
[00:26:52] Speaker C: You know why there is no. Tell me that is because, in all honesty, there's no real consequence. There's no real consequence because. Because there's no law. There's no consequence. Everyone is evil. Everyone's trying to do something wrong.
You know, I'm saying, so there's not gonna. There's not gonna be no justice for Celine?
[00:27:15] Speaker D: Well, not saying I think.
[00:27:18] Speaker C: I think. No, no, no, no.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Situation will come back. Episode ten. I don't think it's going to come back before episode ten.
[00:27:24] Speaker C: All I'm saying is everybody is trying to be on top.
Yeah. All Carter want to do is be the one to pull the strings of whoever's on top.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:27:36] Speaker D: He just showed up. Like, he just, bam, I'm here.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: Like, no, I think. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, that's. That's what I think is, like, they had to marginalize major characters to incorporate.
[00:27:51] Speaker C: Take away from the story. They take away from the story to add a story.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: So let me ask you this. Is car. Is Carter a major threat?
[00:28:01] Speaker D: I think he's a threat. Angle say a major threat, but I.
[00:28:05] Speaker C: Think he's a major nuisance.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: Okay, so.
So let me ask you this. I'm asking this. So if he's not a major threat, do you believe that no more was ever a good villain?
Or has, or was she more of a background threat? Like, was she ever a major threat, or is she more of a.
[00:28:23] Speaker D: No, she's a background threat to me. She's not a. Noma is all about business structure. She want to make things a move, done property. Noma had to do what she had to do to maintain her and power, maintain her status. Um, Carter is just a villain. He's just greed at what. What's the purpose?
[00:28:50] Speaker B: I know this comes into, this comes into EB always brings in the fact that that characters on power have a duality, and I think that Carter doesn't have a duality. I think he has a singular thing. But it's. The thing with Carter is he believes. It's like he lies to himself every day. Cl on my show, relationship status says all the time, lie to everyone, but don't lie to yourself. I think he lies to himself in a sense of, what I'm doing is good.
What I'm doing good. It's not bad. Like, I'm not doing anything negative. It is good. And I think that that's the. One of the worst character traits that we can have as a person is to lie to ourselves and thinking that what we're doing is good when what we're doing is actually hurting everything. Look at what's happening to Detective Lewis.
Detective Lewis, she's screwed.
One, she's going to get caught up in IED, Ibn. That's the first thing. Secondly, Tariq's gonna kill him.
She killed choice Tariq. I do debate whether that's Tariq's baby or not. I do have a yo, they admitted it.
[00:30:11] Speaker C: Come on. We already went through this, son.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: That is not Tariq's baby.
[00:30:15] Speaker C: How could it not be? She says she used condom with everybody except him.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:30:20] Speaker C: So that only leaves him.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: So did a lot of the girls I dealt with. I'm just saying that at the end of the day, you can say what you want. She had a gun to her head, huh? Yeah, exactly. She had a. She had a gun to her head.
She had a gun to her head. You go. You mean to tell me you ain't gonna say whatever you got to say to get out of that moment? In the moment? I don't. I don't believe. We don't believe you. You need more people like, you need a d. She would have had to produce a DNA test to make me.
[00:30:56] Speaker C: Know how she getting the DNA. I mean, they can do it now.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: But you better put the needle through a stomach. Figure out something for me to claim that at the end of the day. But I digress, because he's moved on. Anya. All I can say. Well, let's. Let's talk about Tariq for a second. Tariq has had. Yeah. Of all of the. In the power universe, Tariq has gotten the most buttons. So let's.
[00:31:22] Speaker C: Let's acknowledge he needs to smash. He got around it all. He got to go out with a bang. He got a rounded off. He got a smash. Nomad, he gotta have. I want him to have a threesome with mona and. No, no, man.
Noma and Mona, no, he got the most.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: But evie, he got. I'm just saying, of anybody in the power universe, nobody has more buns. No more bodies than tariff. Nobody kills and buns, nobody.
[00:31:58] Speaker D: That's true. Facts kill.
[00:32:00] Speaker C: Yes. I mean, everybody was pretty much.
[00:32:02] Speaker B: Nobody has more.
[00:32:04] Speaker C: Everybody was pretty much trying to be in a relationship with a person. He has smashed. Effie.
Anya.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: Uh huh. Keep going.
[00:32:14] Speaker D: And and and, um.
[00:32:16] Speaker B: Effie.
[00:32:17] Speaker C: Uh, effie.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: Keep going. Oh, girl.
[00:32:25] Speaker C: Which girl?
[00:32:26] Speaker D: One that. The one that was on our witness protection.
[00:32:29] Speaker B: The one I was on.
[00:32:29] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: All right, now let's go. Let's go back to flagship power. Oh, girl with the lean and.
[00:32:37] Speaker C: Okay, that was his first. That don't count that in the body. Hey, that ain't. That in a real body, because she. She was experienced.
She bodied him.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Hey, ask my first. If she still count, she'll tell you. She still counts.
[00:32:54] Speaker D: But it wasn't on his. It was on. It wasn't on his doing.
[00:33:02] Speaker C: But. But you are right.
I think. I think the closest. Nothing. I think the. The next closest one is going to be Canaan.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: Yeah, next closest Canaan is definitely Canaan. I do have a question for you.
Do you think that Tariq and Diana were ever a viable couple, or we. Are we reading too much into this?
[00:33:28] Speaker C: No.
No, I didn't think so. I think she was just really infatuated with him. Like, she really. Like, she had a crush on him, and she didn't know what to do, and then when she got it, she threw the shit away. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't. I don't feel like that was a real thing. I feel like Effie and Tariq was real. More real than anything, because I agree. Of all of. All the women, she's not. She's. She's never requested anything of Tariq. She's always just been there trying to help. I mean, after she fucked him over, but she's always really tried to just help him out, you know what I'm saying? And always, like, be in that position with him, so.
I don't know.
[00:34:22] Speaker D: Agree. I never saw Diana take Tariq serious.
[00:34:30] Speaker C: I don't even think Monet took that relationship serious.
I just fucking. Huh.
[00:34:39] Speaker B: All right, um.
So let's move on. Geez. Oh, my God. Where's the time going? We are flying through it.
Yeah.
So we have a situation here. The show opens up with Drew. Let's talk about Drew's character for the moment here. Drew gets roped up having to go into jail and kill somebody.
[00:35:03] Speaker C: I thought he was going to do some sexual.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: No. Why?
What? That's not Drew style when he's locked.
[00:35:12] Speaker C: Up around all the men's.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: But Drew. The one thing we know about Drew that ain't his dean.
[00:35:20] Speaker D: Drew is a relationship man. He's a.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Drew's a relationship dude. Yeah. He's not. He. That's not his thing. That's not his thing. Like, Drew, every time you seen Drew, Drew get it in it's in a relationship type deal, so that ain't right.
[00:35:35] Speaker D: Right?
[00:35:36] Speaker B: Yeah, that ain't his.
[00:35:38] Speaker C: I will say that was a weak ass kill.
Why was a weak ass killed?
[00:35:44] Speaker B: About right?
[00:35:44] Speaker D: We can too long.
Yeah.
[00:35:49] Speaker C: Like how you suffocate somebody. My man could have been breathing through his mouth. Like, how did they gain fighting back at all?
Not one iota of a fight. Yeah, he got shot in the chest, not his arms.
[00:36:06] Speaker D: You don't know what. What nerve heat that gunshot hit.
[00:36:12] Speaker C: Yeah, one side. So we give you one arm. Don't work.
[00:36:18] Speaker D: The fact that. The way that he was covering him up, like, at least kick your legs.
[00:36:24] Speaker C: Like, there was no struggle, that he didn't. Zero struggle.
Weak ass kill.
[00:36:33] Speaker D: Like, they. I don't know, these. Whoever got writers of this season garbage.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Yeah, the writers did a.
[00:36:44] Speaker C: They're trying to compact too much in.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And that.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: Was it me, because you talk about that first scene like, is it me or is it. Was that. Well, that wasn't the first scene when they raided.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: That was. No, no, the first scene was when Carter pretty much got the drop on.
[00:37:03] Speaker C: Yo when he gave him the finger. I love that part.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Yo, listen, I thought in that moment, I was like, yo, I like. Like, I don't want to like Carter. Like, he got to drop on Drew.
[00:37:14] Speaker D: You like that scene?
[00:37:16] Speaker C: I don't dislike. I don't dislike Carter at all.
I like Carter. I just feel like he's not the bigger predator. He just. He just run around here playing with his. Playing with off, uh, emotion and shit.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I give you that.
[00:37:34] Speaker D: I I just don't know his mo. Like, what's his mo like? I don't know. What's. What is his end game?
[00:37:42] Speaker C: I. So he. His main thing is the safety of the city. That is what he's known for.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: And so.
[00:37:50] Speaker C: So he's using.
He's using greed and his power, abuse of power, to control drug dealers into playing the game without killing. That. That's it.
You know, I'm saying.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: Okay, so what do you think will be Carter's downfall? Like, what possible alliances do you think could come about from this that would cause Carter's downfall?
[00:38:18] Speaker C: Only thing that's gonna cause his car for his downfall is the fact that he's. He's trying to control everybody, and they just don't want to kill him. They're gonna get together and kill him, figure out a way to kill him.
[00:38:29] Speaker D: If they flip on him. Yep.
[00:38:32] Speaker C: See, I. So I feel like. I feel like. I feel like at the end of this, somebody has to be a winner. Like, somebody has to be a winner. Tariq can't lose because if you look at the flagship show, the star of the show lost.
You know what I'm saying? So everybody can't lose.
[00:38:55] Speaker D: So dumb. Like how you kill the main character of the show and then try to have all these spin offs.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: No.
[00:39:07] Speaker C: Allegedly. Allegedly.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: I will say this. I will say this. I think them killing ghosts was ingenious. I think. I think it was probably the best thing that they could ever do. Jeff says, man, that ninja tripping get to the point where someone gets shot every.
[00:39:26] Speaker C: Somebody gets shot every episode.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: I think the.
To me, to me, I think, like.
[00:39:34] Speaker D: The best crooked cop we ever seen was Sandoval.
[00:39:39] Speaker C: Yeah, well, that's because he didn't. Nobody know. I hundred percent agree with that because that's good. Nobody knew.
[00:39:46] Speaker B: I mean, he moved in silence, cuz. Nobody knew.
[00:39:50] Speaker C: Nobody knew.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: I mean, Fa had his nuts in the vice, literally and figuratively. Like, he, he had his daughter. Like he was ready to move. I mean, like, yeah, you right. That was the best.
[00:40:08] Speaker C: I think he was the best one.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: He was the best one. Um, hey, let's, uh, gonna get ready for some rabbit fire. I gotta find my. My drop, though.
See, this is what happens when. This is what happens when you. You don't be on for a minute.
Okay, that'll work too, but that ain't mine. Where's mine? Well, that'll work though. All right, rapid fire. Effie and Diana have more in common than they think. But Tariq has made it so that they can never be more than frenemies. At best, they hating on each other at this.
[00:40:42] Speaker C: Yo, that scene with that scene in the candy shop.
Yeah, Effie was super tacky.
[00:40:51] Speaker B: No, she wasn't. Effy was on.
[00:40:53] Speaker C: Nah, nah, nah, nah. She. Cuz she throwing, she throwing hella shade because she stayed getting played.
[00:41:01] Speaker B: Now, Effie made a valid point.
[00:41:05] Speaker C: Non, that didn't say that her points were invalid. That's not what I said.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Fe made a valid point. Fe said, yo, so the person who tried to kill you gets more respect than the person that tried to save your life.
[00:41:22] Speaker C: Yo, you tried to get me put.
[00:41:23] Speaker B: In jail to valid point. No, no, she did not know.
[00:41:28] Speaker C: Yes, she did. Cuz he could have gotten locked up for selling drugs in high school.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: No, Effie was trying to save Tariq in the sense in which she. Cuz, remember Tariq got mad at the fact that she tried to kill, um, whatever old girl name was. Yeah, he was. But she did that for Tariq. It wasn't for her.
[00:41:46] Speaker C: I'm not saying that she didn't have good motive.
Yeah, yo, this is the thing. This is my thing.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: After he cut her off.
[00:41:58] Speaker C: Check this out.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: No.
[00:42:07] Speaker C: You not gonna.
[00:42:08] Speaker B: You.
[00:42:08] Speaker C: You not gonna.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: Come on, son.
[00:42:11] Speaker C: There's no way that you can shit on me like you cannot shit on me.
When it was in choke. When they was in choke, man, bro, you.
[00:42:28] Speaker B: You bring up. Let me. Let me.
[00:42:30] Speaker C: Let me get through this.
[00:42:31] Speaker B: Like, he took her to Italy after that?
[00:42:34] Speaker C: Yes. And did she shit it on him again? That was number three. When, uh.
What was.
Damn. I got to put it together. Hold on. All right, so now, all right. No, no, no, no. She did. They did do some shit.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Nice.
Like, she was trying to save him by killing old girl. She. Cuz o'girl was gonna snitch. She was like, yo, all I know to do with a snitch is get rid of him. So she tried to get rid of the snitch to save.
[00:43:07] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: That's what she tried to do. It didn't happen, so it ended up kicking back on her, as you should. So he was like, as it should.
[00:43:19] Speaker C: But guess what my main thing is.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: What did she never do? What did she never do, yo?
Well, she was like, never been up.
[00:43:26] Speaker D: Front and honest to him, she never.
[00:43:28] Speaker C: Know what she never did.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: She never did what she was so.
[00:43:34] Speaker C: What?
[00:43:35] Speaker B: What?
[00:43:35] Speaker C: Yes, she did. Hold the fuck up. Yes, she did.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: No, she didn't.
[00:43:39] Speaker C: She dimed him out when it was.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: In choke do we talking about? It happened when they was in. It doesn't matter when they were.
[00:43:48] Speaker C: All right, so. But this is the thing. This is the thing.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: He was the competition. That show.
[00:43:54] Speaker C: I get. I get it.
But if we. If we talking about these characters that are supposed to. That we kind of see together, right? We see that. We see the two of them working together or being together, right?
So strike one is you die me out and choke. All right, that happened. It's done. We was kids. I forgave you. We get back in good. You do me dirty again.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: When?
When did she get him dirty again?
[00:44:28] Speaker C: It's all in the same thing. It's all. The second time was to me. The second time is you. You went behind my back and did something. Granted, you had good intentions. You had good intentions.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: Like the road, and it is the same.
What's the road? The road to something. Something is paved with good intentions.
[00:44:50] Speaker C: Yes, but you. But here's my thing about it. I can't trust you for me personally. Hear me out.
Hear me out.
For me. If I can. If I trust you. If I trust you, I love you. And if I love you, I trust you. They go together for me, for me, personal.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Trust you.
[00:45:17] Speaker C: I believe I love you.
[00:45:19] Speaker D: I think.
[00:45:22] Speaker C: If she should have.
She had an opportunity. She had an opportunity to come clean. She didn't.
[00:45:32] Speaker B: And you might be right in the sense of which.
[00:45:34] Speaker D: And that tyreek up.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: That didn't.
[00:45:37] Speaker C: That's where I gotta turn my back on.
[00:45:40] Speaker B: Tariq's biggest thing is lying to him, right? That's his biggest thing, because dad lied to him, his mom lied to him. Everybody lied to him except for Tommy, right?
[00:45:49] Speaker C: No, no, Tasha didn't lie to him because.
[00:45:54] Speaker B: He just took to Tasha more than she took.
[00:45:59] Speaker C: You know, she lied when she said he'd be a good drug dealer.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: She definitely lied when she said that.
All right, let's. Let's. Let's move on because we could be on that fellow.
Speculation on Carter's downfall. Possible. We talked about that. I discussed the possibility of a massive showdown between the main characters. And, like, is there any police left for them to have a showdown with?
[00:46:26] Speaker C: Nah. No, because unless they about to go toe to toe with some. With some flat foots and just beat up on some street cops and shit, like, there's nobody else. There's nobody else. There's no good. Like who.
There's nobody fighting for justice.
[00:46:44] Speaker D: Zero.
[00:46:44] Speaker C: And. And. And for me, every. Every. I don't care if is. If it's Marvel.
Nobody fighting for justice. You can't point one person out.
[00:46:57] Speaker B: There's nobody fighting for justice.
[00:46:58] Speaker C: There's nobody.
[00:46:59] Speaker D: Yes, yes.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: Oh, Tate.
[00:47:07] Speaker C: He's dead.
[00:47:08] Speaker B: He's dead.
[00:47:09] Speaker D: He ain't fighting for shit. But he was fighting for justice.
[00:47:13] Speaker C: No, no, no.
But this is the thing. Who was he fighting for? Justice. Because it wasn't.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: No, no, he was. I think he was legitimately on the right side of justice.
[00:47:23] Speaker C: No, he was a straight cop. Like, he was a straight copy, but.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: He was like, who was.
[00:47:28] Speaker C: Who was he fighting for? Justice. He was fighting another.
He was fighting another cop, but I think he was.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: I will say this. I think where he messed up was. He was premature in. In going, yo, let me.
Yeah, I choose other stuff. Well, let's get. Let's get the. Jeff's question real quick before we get into that.
Is Tariq unconsciously committing the same mistakes as his dad?
[00:47:58] Speaker C: Of course.
History repeats itself.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: You think so?
[00:48:03] Speaker C: Yes. Because you got to remember he's trying to take all of what he didn't know about his father, all of what he knows about his father and combine it with his fuckups and become something that he is not.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Okay?
[00:48:26] Speaker C: No, he is not. He's still a low level dealer who. Yes, he's a low. He has no district.
Tommy, from the rip, from the beginning of the show, was distro.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: Get you right from the beginning of the flagship, they were distro. And from the power origins, we're about to find out how they got there. All right, last question. Yeah, last question from tonight.
And I'll start with you, Vaughn. What would be the most satisfying ending for you as a fan of the power universe?
[00:49:07] Speaker D: The most satisfying, like, what's your prediction?
[00:49:12] Speaker B: What's the most satisfying?
[00:49:14] Speaker D: My most satisfying is to see Tasha and Tommy come snatch Tariq ass up and drive off and just go and just.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: Just move on and just leave. All right, what's yours?
[00:49:33] Speaker C: The most satisfying ending for me would be to see, actually see Tariq reopen truth as a distro.
As a distro with Effie and Braden.
[00:49:53] Speaker B: That's tough.
[00:49:55] Speaker C: And hopefully he's got a family.
Like. Like, I want to see ghosts come back.
[00:50:06] Speaker D: You're recreating ghosts all over.
[00:50:10] Speaker C: They are. No, I'm not. They are. I'm not. I'm just watching the show.
Think about it. Think about it. Think about it.
What did Lakeisha. What did Lakeisha say to Tommy? Oh, I would never tell on you. I would never snitch. Yeah, what an old girl say to Brayden?
You're not no snitch.
They're recreating the same shit.
You got to remember this is true. This is true to life. Writing true to life is your kids will become what you are.
[00:50:47] Speaker D: And history does. Repeats itself through our. Generate through generations.
[00:50:52] Speaker C: Yep, that would be satisfying to me.
[00:50:59] Speaker B: That's the ant. Gwinnett said first. She said hi, and she said, let me exit because I haven't started the episode yet.
[00:51:05] Speaker C: Oh, you better get on in there and get the watch.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: Spoiler alert. Definitely from here. All right, what I will ask you guys as we're going out, and this is from our standpoint as bringing. I believe we bring an honest look at the show of power, but we do want. We want more. So my question is, is there still hope for the final episodes to deliver a satisfying conclusion? Vaughn?
[00:51:33] Speaker D: Yes, I believe so. It better be.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: It better.
[00:51:40] Speaker C: I don't know if history repeats itself.
[00:51:43] Speaker D: The struggle between Norma. I want to see.
What's the son name?
The one that's sleeping with Noah.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Oh, three.
[00:51:54] Speaker C: Oh, no, no. You talking about Cane?
[00:51:56] Speaker B: Talking about king.
[00:51:58] Speaker C: But no more fucking.
[00:52:00] Speaker D: No more where he's got to choose between Noma and his mother.
[00:52:05] Speaker C: He already did everything.
[00:52:08] Speaker D: No, no.
[00:52:10] Speaker C: Are you talking about, like a life of death type?
[00:52:13] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:52:13] Speaker C: Through.
[00:52:14] Speaker D: Through blood.
Who's who. You gonna say no more or your mama?
[00:52:21] Speaker C: Well, you already know. You already know he not gonna save no more because I believe that in the near episodes that are gonna come out, Kane is gonna find out about her fucking.
What method Mandy.
[00:52:41] Speaker B: Oh. Hurt her with.
With Davis.
[00:52:44] Speaker C: Yeah, he gonna find out about that. But plus, he already. He already ran back to Effie.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: He did. He didn't run back to Effie.
[00:52:54] Speaker D: I wanted to know the truth about her mother.
[00:52:58] Speaker B: True.
[00:52:58] Speaker C: She gonna find out.
Yeah, she gonna find out.
And that whole, I'm telling you, Tariq is gonna end up back with effie because the whole shit gonna blow up behind him using Anya to get the noma. It's gonna blow up.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: I think. I think Tariq does end up with effie.
I do believe that because I think that he's no longer handcuffed by. Well, what are your predictions on the baby? Did the baby survive?
[00:53:35] Speaker C: I don't think the baby survived. I think that's why they emphasize that.
I think that's why they emphasize that in that scene.
[00:53:44] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:53:45] Speaker C: Like, I think the baby does not.
[00:53:47] Speaker D: Survive she miscarriage, to be fair. To be honest.
She don't need to bring no baby in this situation.
[00:53:56] Speaker C: That's gonna give, but that's gonna give, but that's gonna. That's gonna give. The Tejada's the fuel to come together to go against car and the crew.
[00:54:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with you there.
I mean, y'all, as always, it's amazing to be here with our listeners, our followers, and everybody that's in here. Thanks for following us. Thanks for tapping into the show. Make sure that you drop your comments, even tell the people how they can find you.
[00:54:27] Speaker C: Yo, you can find me on Instagram. That's b I g k I d e n v I underscore chops, as well as on the Facebook page of egress and ignorance. And Instagram, that's grits, the letter n ignorance.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: Finally, tell the people how they can find you.
[00:54:45] Speaker D: You can follow me on Instagram at one boncello, and you can try to follow me on Facebook.
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[00:54:54] Speaker B: Try bond Lee at Yoshi English on Instagram and Snapchat at the 9th wonder and on Twitter at I am koji underscore and tick tock at relationship status rel stat podcast. Until next time, y'all. Man, we out. Peace.
That wasn't my dad.
[00:55:20] Speaker C: That wasn't.
[00:55:20] Speaker B: That wasn't my dad. White auntie. Jesus Christ, Zeke.
[00:55:23] Speaker D: What the fuck? That ain't your fucking auntie. That's your mother.
[00:55:26] Speaker C: Mo, what the fuck is she talking about?
[00:55:30] Speaker E: Now's not the time to act like you know what the fuck you're doing, cuz. I know you don't listen. I killed my dad to save my family. Hi, Drew, Monet, Diana, Mecca. Go after all of them if you don't kill Lorenzo. And make sure you're the last one alive so you can see all of.
