EGI Presents Power Book IV: Force Episode 209n Recap

EGI Presents Power Book IV: Force Episode 209n Recap
Eggs, Grits, & Ignorance
EGI Presents Power Book IV: Force Episode 209n Recap

Nov 08 2023 | 01:12:43

Episode November 08, 2023 01:12:43

Hosted By

Yusuf In The Building Ibby Von

Show Notes

Hosts: Ibby, Von, & El Niño

 On today episode the team discusses the writers relentless approach to character mortality, and we can't help but discuss the significance of the deaths of Miguel's mother and Nunez. How does Mirkovic factor into these deaths, and what does it reveal about his character? We'll dissect it all.

Tommy's unyielding pursuit of power against Miguel is a central theme this season. We'll explore how his character arc progresses in this episode, including his alliance with Mireya and her surprising decision to side with Tommy over her own brother, Miguel. What implications does this have for the power struggle?

Diamond's journey this season has been filled with grief and retribution. We'll take a closer look at how he's dealing with the loss of Leon and his quest to find the killer, as well as his conflict with Jamal and what motivates him to take matters into his own hands.

Claudia and Shanti, the new players in the Chicago drug game, have made significant moves. How do their actions affect the power balance in the city, and what do you predict for Claudia's future as she becomes increasingly entangled with Tommy and Shanti's plans?

In our rapid-fire segment, we'll tackle burning questions about Shanti's master plan, D-Mac's outburst, Claudia's trust issues, and much more.

We'll also introduce a new segment, "Top 5 Power Players," where we'll rank the key players in this complex web of power struggles.

And as always, we'll wrap up with your favorite scene, predictions on who might meet their demise, and who's coming out on top and losing ground in this gripping power play. So, don't miss this episode of "The Power Game Podcast"!

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[00:00:54] Speaker C: Presents Powerbook Four Force Episode 209 the crew gets into Jennard starting to think for himself, his brother diamond returning to rare form, and Tom making all the right moves to get to the top. They also discuss Maria picking sides, her brother Miguel getting a message from Merkovich, and then him returning to send her. They also get into Jennard starting to think for herself, and Claudia and Shanti starting to make some moves for themselves. We talk about the top five power moves, the worst sex scene ever in the history of force, and so much more right now on eggs glitching. Previously on Force. Darnell's Alive. I won't let you in Darnell's life. If you're drinking and using drugs, let everyone know. The Serbs go hungry. [00:01:52] Speaker A: Guidado Colunas. If he feels left out, he will not be loyal to you. [00:01:56] Speaker D: Mucho gusto. Check. [00:01:57] Speaker C: SS El guero kenogenlos bolcios de Ferris. [00:02:00] Speaker A: You use me to get the check? I know you're involved with Tommy. Ask Tommy about Lakeisha Grant, my friend. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Police owns a bunch of clubs on the Viagra Triangle. Are you in or not? [00:02:08] Speaker A: We in with Claudia and the Serbs. We want to work with. [00:02:10] Speaker C: You keep working with both of them. Here is doing. [00:02:13] Speaker A: When a case has an active CI, they suddenly put a wallop around the case. [00:02:17] Speaker C: Are you telling me we got a snitch? [00:02:18] Speaker D: YouR deal is, boy. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Unless you implicate Tommy Egan and Vargas'death. [00:02:22] Speaker C: Tommy Egan kill Agent Vargas? [00:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:25] Speaker C: Something you need to know about that. We're dealing drugs again now? I'm part of it. Are you saying this shit because you really not looking to expand or because you finally get some pussy on the regular? Got your head all fucked up, let me tell you. Pussy. That shit come and go, nigga. But this shit right here, that should change everything. And let's put the needle on the record. And yo, welcome back to EGi Presents Powerbook Four Force season two Recap Episode Two oh Nine. It's brought to you by the people over at Zeus. Contact Amika Canard at 84323 00:11 75. She specializes in smoothies, Zeus ice cream, milkshakes and Italian ice. You can also book her for kid parties and special events. Now remember, if you buy five, they let the last one slide, so hit her up. 84323 00:11 75 to, as they put it, put some Zeus in your life. If you want to join the conversation, make sure to hit us up. Eggsgrits [email protected] or just drop it in the comments, man. We'll go ahead and we will make sure that we address it in the moment when it happens, man. Listen, I'm here with two of the best people ever. And as you can see, EB has his camera off, but I'm here with. I'm your host, first off, El Nino, aka the 9th wonder, aka brother Muzon. And I'm here with Eb and Vaughn, who is Miss V tonight, and EBay and Eb. If he had his camera on, I'd be able to say what his thing is, but apparently I think he's chowing down, so he'll just be a voice from the sky tonight. Now I'm here. [00:04:51] Speaker D: I'm in the building. [00:04:52] Speaker C: Yeah, but apparently. [00:04:56] Speaker A: He'S in the building just now. [00:04:58] Speaker D: I am aka Runtel, Dad. [00:05:00] Speaker C: Aka Runtel, Dad. Hey, man. How's everybody? Now, mind you all, we did have the announcement, so our apologies. We were supposed to get on last night. Couldn't make it happen. Needless to say, I always will admit when I'm wrong. I got in late. Here I am now, as everybody else is at 08:00 p.m. On a Tuesday, a big Tuesday night. How's everybody's week been going so far? [00:05:35] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:05:38] Speaker C: Smooth, smooth. Okay, pretty good. [00:05:40] Speaker D: Like that Sarak I'm drinking. [00:05:43] Speaker C: Like the Sarak you're drinking. [00:05:46] Speaker A: I want to finish eating the pickle so bad. [00:05:49] Speaker C: Eat the pickle. [00:05:50] Speaker A: But I can't do it on camera. [00:05:52] Speaker D: Eat the pickle. [00:05:55] Speaker C: Listen, eat the pickle. [00:05:59] Speaker D: You ain't got to do it on camera, but just leave a mic on moist myself. [00:06:16] Speaker C: Hold on, let me do. I got it here. I think I got it here. Where is it? Oh, there we go. [00:06:24] Speaker D: I'm moist. [00:06:28] Speaker C: Call and response. I said I'm moist. Go ahead, Vaughn. [00:06:34] Speaker A: First of all, you know, I'm mad. [00:06:36] Speaker C: Mad at who? [00:06:37] Speaker D: Moyes? [00:06:38] Speaker A: Because you don't have that on the other board. [00:06:41] Speaker C: I don't have it on the other. Okay, well, don't you worry about it, bitch. [00:06:49] Speaker D: I know somebody, like. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Definitely don't have that one on the other board. He is taking the sounds from the very necessary podcast. [00:07:03] Speaker C: Yes. I will move those over to the board this week. I'll move those over to the board. The studio this week. I digress. Is my fault. Let's get right into it, man. We ain't got all day, man. Really and truly, this was the set up to the season finale. And I really felt like this even could have been the season finale. If they would have left on this, it would have been enough to carry over into next season. It was just so much happened. [00:07:34] Speaker A: Definitely. Good episode. [00:07:36] Speaker C: Yeah. So ranking one to ten, Eb, what you give it? [00:07:40] Speaker D: I give it an eight. [00:07:45] Speaker C: Okay. What about you, Vaughn? [00:07:47] Speaker A: I gave it 8.5. [00:07:48] Speaker C: Yeah, see, I gave it a nine until the. What's the name? What's the child name? It's in my notes here because I got it here somewhere. [00:08:04] Speaker A: Maria. [00:08:04] Speaker C: Not Maria. What is the cop name? What's her name? [00:08:12] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. [00:08:13] Speaker D: Oh, Stacey. [00:08:14] Speaker C: Stacey. Like, it was a nine until Stacey had that sex scene. And then I was like, yeah, let's straight facts. [00:08:20] Speaker D: That was lame. That sexy lame is that wig she wears, Ash. [00:08:24] Speaker C: Shit was so trash. Like, I was like, the worst. As I said in the pre roll, the worst sex scene in the power universe. So since episode one of season one of the who got a tie in the power universe, which one was on with that? [00:08:49] Speaker D: It was the sex scene that Claudia had with that dude right before they killed a popS. [00:08:59] Speaker C: That wasn't that bad. [00:09:02] Speaker D: That was horrible. That was like 37 seconds of nothing. [00:09:06] Speaker A: No, that wasn't whack. [00:09:09] Speaker D: That shit was trash. [00:09:10] Speaker A: Ola, she just gave him a little ride. That's what she did. [00:09:15] Speaker D: That shit was whack. [00:09:16] Speaker C: Ernestine. Ernestine. Tapping IN hello, everyone. Are y'all talking about power yet? We are on power right now, Ms. Ernestine. [00:09:27] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:09:28] Speaker C: We on power. Right. Know, I know, I know. How you doing, ma'am? Thanks for tapping in. We appreciate you being here. [00:09:34] Speaker A: Hey, Miss Dean. [00:09:36] Speaker C: All right. Really, I wanted to start off with. All right, so we're going to talk about deaths. This season has been so EB, this season really has been riddled with character death more than any other season in any of the power universe. What's your take on the writers, like, writing so many deaths into this season, into this particular season, because there's no season in the power universe that's had this many character deaths. They may have had people getting shot, some extras or whatever, but just straight up character deaths. There's never been a season that had so many. What are your thoughts on the writers and their approach to basically character mortality in this particular version of power? [00:10:21] Speaker D: I think it's fitting. [00:10:26] Speaker C: Yes, I'm going to come to you next, Bon. [00:10:29] Speaker D: I think it's fitting because it's just some characters. [00:10:35] Speaker A: They got to let somebody go. [00:10:38] Speaker D: They're useless. [00:10:40] Speaker A: But they do set up main players. [00:10:43] Speaker D: Yeah, they set up the alley for the main. [00:10:48] Speaker C: Okay. Okay. What about you, Vaughn? [00:10:56] Speaker A: I agree with EB. My thing is with some of them were useless, but they were needed. So you got to get rid of the useless players, but you had to make them make a strong statement in order to get rid of them. And I think what the writers did was make their presence very well known in the writing to have them to have a strong exit. So it's not like they were just killed in a massive blowout, but like, having the dude that was behind the mom getting killed, having that set up, that was needed. [00:11:37] Speaker D: Because he was trying to make a play, too, a little. [00:11:39] Speaker A: Bit how the mom passed away, but I just thought that she was going to go out a different way. [00:11:55] Speaker C: But that's my next to go. [00:11:57] Speaker A: I think everybody that has gone so far, it was well needed. Except for the little old boy. The little boy. [00:12:04] Speaker C: Well, I think we kind of saw that coming. The build up to him dying. Like we knew an innocent was going to die in episode eight. We knew that. And really more innocent, if you go back and listen to our episode, it was either him or his mom. Those are the only two people that were 100% innocent because that's always the tough part, finding the innocent that's going to die and that was being them. So we kind of knew that. But I did want to bring up a point to what you said, Vaughn, kind of to elaborate. So what was the significance of Miguel's mother dying and Nunez dying? Nunez was the guy that set up the. Well, basically really set up Miguel because that bomb was meant for Miguel. So what do you think was the significance of those deaths? [00:13:02] Speaker A: Right, but it was meant for Miguel. But do you really think he wanted to kill Miguel? [00:13:11] Speaker C: Yeah, if it was meant for Miguel, since 100% wanted to kill Miguel, you. [00:13:20] Speaker A: Got to remember, I just felt like. [00:13:25] Speaker D: That'S the way Tommy set it up. Tommy set it up for. Because in my mind to be going. [00:13:31] Speaker A: At. [00:13:36] Speaker C: It'S supposed, the war is supposed to be, supposed to be them getting at each other. [00:13:40] Speaker A: You said, what's the significance? [00:13:42] Speaker C: Yeah. What do you think was the significance behind? Because I have in my mind, and I'm going to let you answer first before I get into that part. [00:13:53] Speaker D: Well, I got to answer, too. [00:13:55] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm going to let you answer, too, Eve. [00:13:59] Speaker D: So you want me to do it? [00:14:01] Speaker C: Yeah, go ahead. [00:14:02] Speaker A: I got Jeff Wi Fi tonight. [00:14:04] Speaker C: Yeah, apparently. Apparently. [00:14:09] Speaker A: I'm having a delay. [00:14:10] Speaker C: Okay, go ahead, Evie. [00:14:12] Speaker D: All right. So I think the significance of it is that, let me not answer a question off key, but for me, every major character in power has to have a rock bottom, a point in time where it's like, fuck it, I got to be who I am. Because the one thing I like about Ghost, the power, book Two, Ghost, is that Tariq actually comes to terms with his duality. You don't really see them. The other characters, you don't see Tommy come to terms with it. You don't know Ghost come to terms with. So these, I think the people that died, Abuela dying, diamond killing the crackhead nigger, you know what I'm saying? Certain characters had to die so that that character can deal with their duality and then say, fuck it, I'm going to be the beast that I am. To get where we need to take this. [00:15:31] Speaker C: Was. So basically what you're saying is the significance behind Nunez's death. Well, how Nunez died and then how his mom gonna. I'm gonna disagree with you a little bit because this was my thought on the significance of it. The significance of it was it showed the weakness of Miguel. The significance of it was to Che. How you let this dude that you brought in set you up for your mom. How did somebody get so close and infiltrate your group to the point where you were able to get touched on your property? [00:16:15] Speaker D: You notice in any power, there's always one plug. There can only be one plug. Whether you're talking about raising Canaan, you talking about ghosts, you talk about power, there's always only one plug. So Miguel got to go. So that means that Chase Cartel got to go. And now niggas is going to be fucking with the Detroit cartel. [00:16:47] Speaker C: Well, no, they not. [00:16:49] Speaker D: I know they're going to figure out a way to. [00:16:51] Speaker C: I don't think the Detroit cartel here to stay. [00:16:55] Speaker D: Limited. [00:16:56] Speaker C: Yeah, they in and out. So Vaughn, Miguel reacting to Nunez, betraying him, how does this reflect his particular character's evolution? Like seeing Miguel from day one to this? Do you think that he has evolved, or do you think this was a typical emotional reaction from Miguel, that was so just to me, the way he killed Nunez just came off as so simple. Boom, I'm just shoot him in the head. If you betrayed me to set my mom's to die, I am going to cut your toes off one by one. Cut your fingers off one by one. You know what saying? Like, I don't know, just do shit to torture you. You know what I'm saying? And then I'd cut your hands off and then make you get hungry and put a snicker bar right in front of you. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. [00:17:48] Speaker A: That's what he's known for. He's known for torture. He's known to make people be miserable in their demise. So watching him, I guess bringing Nunes to them, he was already tortured enough. He came in a butt naked, stripped down, blood all over him. So, I mean, what's left but just to go ahead and just kill him? He's been asking, I think, for what's his name? [00:18:23] Speaker C: Che. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Is looking at what's his name? [00:18:33] Speaker C: Miguel. [00:18:33] Speaker A: Miguel. Miguel Shay is looking at Miguel as being a weak link. [00:18:38] Speaker D: Yeah. So I think any other reaction would. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Have made Tommy's hand. [00:18:44] Speaker D: It would have made him look weak. If he had to ask why or try to figure out why, the answers would have made him look weak. So he had to cap him. He had no question. Cap him. [00:18:58] Speaker C: Okay. And then number two of the worst scenes on my list of worst scenes of this episode, tell me how the hell they kidnapped Nunez right in front of Merkovich's damn restaurant in broad daylight, walking across the street ain't like they pull up Tommy Carr alongside his car. They literally got out the car, walked across the street, grabbed him in broad daylight in front of Merkovich's spot. And then what did they do, drag him to Tommy's car? Did they put him in his own. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Poor writing? [00:19:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:19:34] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:19:34] Speaker A: That was poor writing. [00:19:36] Speaker D: That was a Tubi moment. [00:19:37] Speaker C: That was such a damn Tubi moment. And then that kind of segues right into my next thing. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Exactly. They didn't find him down the alley. They didn't find him somewhere else right. [00:19:48] Speaker C: In front of Tommy. I think Tommy's relentless pursuit of power has been basically the central theme of this particular season. How does his character, do you think his character's arc progressed, Eb? Do you think that he made steps forward in this episode towards that power? [00:20:19] Speaker D: I think he's made steps towards it the whole season. You know what? Each moment, with each moment, he's thinking he's not just playing like he normally does. He's thinking things out. He's 10,000 steps ahead of the Popo, you know what I'm saying? They ain't even remotely close. They trying to use coercion to get him because they can't get him. You know what I'm saying? So he's ahead of the game. He's so far ahead of the game because to me, like I said, I've said this before, the hustle is always going to be the hustle, but everybody play the game differently. Everybody got Monopoly in a house. But Monopoly have rules. But every house has house rules, you know what I'm saying? And when you go into another city with something new, that really is the same. Niggas don't know how to. Nobody really know how to handle that shit. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Okay. What about you, Vaughn? [00:21:34] Speaker A: What was the question again? [00:21:38] Speaker C: What do you think about Tommy's progress in this episode? The central theme is the pursuit of, right out of this season, Diamond's pursuit of power, Shanti's pursuit of power, Jennard's pursuit to regain his power, and Tommy's pursuit to have all of the power. Whether he shares it with diamond or not, it's his pursuit for all of the power. So how do we think, in this episode, has he made any steps towards gaining that power, or do we think he's kind? [00:22:15] Speaker A: I think he's gained good steps, actually. I think he is showing those that one. Tommy's a stranger in Chicago. He's the new kid on the block. So he has to make himself look, be relevant in front of the power players. So he know that he has to make these grand moves. He has to show that, hey, I can be trusted. I'm your right hand. He's checking off all the boxes, and as he check off the boxes, he's moving to another layer. One thing that Jennard said to his brother was Tommy making all these moves without you. So Jennard is trying to get into Diamond's head about Tommy, about the moves that he's making, the moves Tommy is making. So I think everybody, as far as Jennard and Diamond, they starting to see, okay, hell, yeah, Tommy making these moves. Everything that's going down is the result of Tommy's action. So is he making progress? Yes. My thing is, once he gets to that area, it's going to Plateau. And that's where I'm trying to understand what's going to happen. [00:23:29] Speaker C: I mean, that makes sense. And I thought that, too. I thought that every move he made, I think that for all of the things that, and we said this earlier this season for all of the things that Tommy hated about Ghost, he learned, like, Tommy was always playing checkers and Ghost was always playing chess. And I think Tommy learned how to move the pieces around the board. He's more calculated now because before Tommy's let's cancel Christmas on his ass and Ghost be like, think, Tommy, think. And it just seems as though Tommy is the more reserved thinker out of all of these groups of people that are out that are doing this. I mean, even Diamond. I think Diamond's a thinker as well. But Diamond's so emotionally distraught in this episode that he really can't see. He's really being really trusting of Tommy. Even when Miguel and I still waiting to see how that plays out, Miguel coming at him about separating him from Tommy. And I think that, and we're going to talk predictions later because I have a prediction on that. But I do want to get into a little bit more of Tommy. Maria showed her true colors in this episode. She chose Tommy over her brother. The second she heard I'm going to kill Tommy, she ran right to Tommy Vaughn. Have you ever been in that situation where you've had to choose between a family member and a significant other? [00:25:02] Speaker A: No, but, you know, me being in her shoes, I would have done the same thing. [00:25:11] Speaker C: You've done the same thing. What about you, Ebi? You ever been in that situation? [00:25:15] Speaker A: I would have did the same thing. [00:25:16] Speaker D: Hell, yeah, I've been in that situation. You met my wife. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I can. [00:25:31] Speaker C: Do. All right, but you're going too far. [00:25:34] Speaker A: No can do. [00:25:36] Speaker D: But you know what? On surreal shit like being in that situation, I didn't choose my family. I didn't choose my wife. I chose myself. [00:25:49] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:50] Speaker D: You know what I mean? I'm going to do whatever is going to make me happy. [00:25:58] Speaker A: I think that's what she's doing. [00:26:00] Speaker D: Yeah. I can't worry about whether you're going to like this or this person or that person for whatever reason or none of that, or even if they don't like you. You know what I'm saying? Now, if my marriage had worked out and she's still here, then yeah, you know what? I'm going to choose you at some point. But if I got to go to a wedding or Bob mitzvah or whatever else, at some point in time, I'm literally going to go with my family as well. So you can't come. I'm going to go down here and handle this wedding situation. I'll be back you know what I mean? I'm not going to allow their dislike for you or your dislike for them to dictate how I move with them or with you. You know what I'm saying? So it's either going to be, you choose me and I choose me, or you all could just fight with each other. Because at the end of the day, I'm just going to be me. Fuck them, okay? Anybody know me? My family know me and they could vouch for me. I will fight my family. [00:27:19] Speaker C: Before we get into Yoshi's comment here, well, we're going to get in her comment first. Yoshi, she was supposed to be on with us tonight, but she's still getting her hair braided. That was going to be our guest host tonight. She said, I'm proud of Maria. She know her brother ain't no good. Ain't nobody going to miss Abuela but him, which I think is true fact. [00:27:41] Speaker A: That's absolutely true. [00:27:44] Speaker C: Okay. We've already talked about what we think about her decision to choose Tommy over her brother. What is the impact of said decision? Because Maria making this decision has a huge impact on this storyline. So, Vaughn, what do you think is the impact of her making this decision? [00:28:10] Speaker A: First of all, if she don't give him his insulin, he going to be dead anyway. He need her more than him. I mean, truthfully speaking. But no, her decision on or the implications of her choosing herself, because that's basically what she's doing. She's choosing herself over her family and she's choosing, I think, this go around, she's seen so much bloodshed, she's seen her brother do so much, especially those who she loved or cared about. Look at the doctor and the previous boy, the guy that she was dating. She is tired of him. And I feel like once everything comes to the light, I think she's going to be fine. I think Tommy is going to protect her at all costs. I don't see any worries with her. [00:29:03] Speaker C: Okay. [00:29:03] Speaker A: I think she is safe. [00:29:06] Speaker C: What about you, Eve? [00:29:08] Speaker D: I think she going to kill Miguel. [00:29:12] Speaker A: She might can. [00:29:14] Speaker C: That was my next question. I really was going to ask you. What was the impact of her decision in this ongoing power struggle? That right there makes a lot of sense. That right there makes a lot of sense. [00:29:29] Speaker D: If you go back to. I think maybe it was probably around like, episode three. I'm not 100% on which episode it was, but you go back to some of the earlier episodes in season two, literally, the director highlighted the insulin, not when she was giving it to her, but it was a moment where it's kind of like Tommy was seeing the insulin on the counter or some shit. Like. [00:30:06] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:07] Speaker D: You know what saying. So, so maybe it's know her directly doing it. Like Tommy spiked that shit or some shit. You know what I mean? [00:30:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:20] Speaker D: And she gonna fuck him up and I think he's dead. He's out of here and fucking Tommy is going to move on with Che and they're going to take out the other motherfuckers because Merkovich brought the motherfuckers in. [00:30:33] Speaker C: Well, I'm going to tell you what. I think the new cartel coming in sets up next season's conflict. [00:30:45] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. Because I think the two biggest characters that's going to die this week coming is going to be Miguel and Vic. [00:30:55] Speaker C: Yeah. We'll get to predictions. [00:30:57] Speaker D: Somehow big is out of get. [00:30:58] Speaker C: Let's get predictions. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Got to go. [00:31:01] Speaker C: We'll get to that. All right. Let's kind of shift over to somebody who this episode I kind of felt for because Diamond's journey this season has kind of been about growth and retribution, but it's also been filled with a lot of grief, the loss of the kid, the loss of his relationship with the lady, the loss of his relationship with his brother at the beginning of the season. So let's talk about, and I want to get your opinion on, and I'll start with you, Vaughn. What about Diamond's evolution throughout this season so far? His character's evolution, his character's growth? [00:31:46] Speaker A: I think diamond has come into the realization of who he really is. And I think that's what episode we are now. Nine. Yeah, I think episode seven, six or seven is when he looked in the mirror and he said, this is who I am. [00:32:08] Speaker C: Episode eight. Episode eight. [00:32:09] Speaker A: All that he was trying to do behind the scene, episode eight. Okay, well, I guess it was like one or two episodes ago, everything that he's been doing, he had to sneak, hide, run behind his back. Now that he can really live out who he is, he had to kill his PO. Whatever. But I think he gets to live out his truth. And in living out his truth, it sucks that he is hurting because he's seeking revenge. I guess the growth in or the evolution of Diamond, I think he's about to show everyone who he really is. Like, why he called himself diamond, why he was this top dude, why he was this bad guy. So I really think that diamond, he's just as smart as Tommy. He's more calculated than Tommy. And I think that it's going to be a struggle between him and Tommy, at some point. [00:33:14] Speaker C: Okay, yeah, I get that. So what do you think about Diamond's path? Like, Leon's died and diamond is going through it. Do you think that Leon's death, that diamonds, basically his actions post Leon's death, is a decline of his better days or is he trying to make an amends? [00:33:39] Speaker A: Both. [00:33:39] Speaker D: I think that David is in pain, but he's using diamond to correct what he thinks he did wrong when he really and truly had no control over what was happening. Because that's been the setup from day one. From the day one, that boy stepped into Diamond's life. It was always going to be that. It was always going to be that this character dies so that diamond can step forward, but David can step back. You know what? Trying to, like, he's trying to make amends. David is trying to make amends through Diamond. So I think that as far as the darker side of things, David is still there. It's not a hundred percent like. It's those moments when you look at power, the original where Ghost had to be like, you know what? I got to put James St. Patrick to the side for a second and step back into this life with 2ft so that I can get to clean air. Because I watch a lot of, you know, the best drivers running clean air. And right now diamond is in dirty Air and he's trying to get the clean air. So this is his excuse to be who he thinks he should be when all actuality he still has, yet he want to be. Yeah. He still hasn't accept the duality of his life. Because you know what? Whether you're a drug dealer or a teacher, a lawyer, doctor, whatever you do, you know what I'm saying? When I get up in the morning and I go to work, I'm still Eb, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. My customers see me as one thing, and to them I am that. You know what I mean? But when I walk back through my door, I am not the salesman, you know what I mean? I'm still Eb. So I can't allow EB to go to work even though EB clocked in, because my customers are not going to understand the pain that I'm going through. [00:36:29] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:36:31] Speaker D: They only going to want to understand that they need what they need from me at this point, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's really where diamond is. He's not 100% diamond and he's not 100% David. They're fighting with each other because they're in pain. So we got to do what we know how to do. The only way we know how to do it. You know what? [00:37:00] Speaker C: Yeah. And somebody doing stuff, the only way they know how to do it and fucking up at the same time is does. So you got her. She done pulled Shanti, and Shanti done went to Tommy. I think Shanti is going to fuck around and outsmart herself thinking that she's outsmarting Tommy. But as we say, tommy is always, like, ten moves ahead. [00:37:33] Speaker D: I really hate to sound like a bigot or someone who's ignorant towards women's movement. Like, I ain't trying to get canceled or nothing, but these broads is in hope of their head. [00:37:49] Speaker A: They really are. [00:37:51] Speaker D: I could understand you making your presence known. When you go for a job inteRview, you sit down to the table like, you make your presence known. You make these people say, you know what? That is someone. I want to represent my company. Right. I get that. You know what I'm saying? But everything this woman does is asinine. Like, just go sit down somewhere. When are you going to realize that you're not built for this portion of the game? Now, you may have wisdom. I'm not going to say you stupid. You may be able to move some bricks. You good at hiding the money? Why don't you move according to your talents? You're not going to be the queen of nothing. Like, you have nothing. And no one's going to let you have anything. Merkovich not going to let you have nothing. No, Tommy not going to let you have nothing. And to anybody else, every Flyn is irrelevant because of Vic killing his pops. [00:39:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:06] Speaker D: So please, young lady, please sit down. [00:39:13] Speaker A: She's over promising, and I bet she's about to under deliver. [00:39:17] Speaker C: Oh, hell, yeah. [00:39:18] Speaker D: Oh, man. Like that weak ass sex scene she was in because he wanted to bust. That's why. I'd have been looking at the director like, can we reshoot this? [00:39:36] Speaker C: That was trash. Can we redo this, please? Before we get into rapid fire, I did want to address one thing here. First off, Tommy got top notch security on the house. Vic gets this bug in there. Like, what, in Vic's mind would lead him to believe Tommy has never. And I had this discussion with somebody. I think it was with you, Vaughn, and Yoland. No, it was somebody else. About the fact that they put a bug in Tommy's house. When Tommy never talks about business in his house. [00:40:16] Speaker D: I mean, as of lately, he kind of been talking. [00:40:18] Speaker C: No, he ain't been talking? No. What does he say? Nothing significant, serious. [00:40:23] Speaker D: But it's been a few incriminating things that he kind of let go in the crib. [00:40:30] Speaker A: Well, when dude came to visit, they had a little conversation. What's his name? Maria's brother. [00:40:40] Speaker C: Yeah, Miguel. Miguel. But it really wasn't. [00:40:45] Speaker D: They. But that's what they looking for. They looking for a link. They're not necessarily. Right. They're not necessarily looking for drug talk, but. Okay, this is the voice of the cartel dude talking to the guy that we think is a drug dealer. Now, we could run a RICO on him. [00:41:04] Speaker C: That's fine. You got to have something incriminating to run the RICO. No, you have to connect all the dots. [00:41:17] Speaker D: At the end when they. [00:41:18] Speaker C: Yeah, but right now all you got. [00:41:20] Speaker D: To get all of the warrants that they want. They can get it based off. [00:41:25] Speaker C: Yeah, but they're not going to arrest. [00:41:26] Speaker D: I heard you had a conversation with this person. [00:41:28] Speaker C: Yeah, but they can't arrest off of that. [00:41:30] Speaker D: No arrest, no arrest. [00:41:32] Speaker A: They can build a case to say, okay, they do know each other. It's not implied anymore. [00:41:39] Speaker C: And that's true. But shit, I know a lot of people. [00:41:43] Speaker D: Yeah, but if you in the same room with them. [00:41:46] Speaker C: Yeah, but I think that if they had enough, all it does is allow. [00:41:50] Speaker D: Them to surveil you more. [00:41:53] Speaker C: Okay, which is true, but what I. [00:41:56] Speaker D: Can'T say is that's what I'm getting to. [00:41:58] Speaker C: I can't say. [00:41:59] Speaker D: Not necessarily the end game of him getting locked up because he had a conversation with Miguel. They could have been talking about fucking. Why you fucking my sister, you know what I mean? But the conversation will get them in trouble in the long run because all she's going to do is say to the judge, well, look, they talk and then they can follow up. [00:42:23] Speaker C: They can build cases. [00:42:25] Speaker D: Cops will build cases while you in jail. [00:42:28] Speaker C: For real? [00:42:29] Speaker D: For real. [00:42:30] Speaker C: Yeah. All right. Now, my last thing, Tommy is smarter than the feds. And that's how he got Vic. [00:42:38] Speaker D: See, he's smarter than all of these feds. Every single last one. [00:42:43] Speaker C: That's how he got Vic. Because old girl was like, yeah, I got a connection with the phone company. He goes ahead and says, I'm give out these new numbers. When a warrant comes out, the number is flagged. As soon as this happens, boom, it's going to flag it. And I'm going to know who the snitch is because they had to give the number out to the feds for the feds to flag it. And when Tommy saw that Tommy was so his emotion was hurt. [00:43:14] Speaker D: What was that? [00:43:21] Speaker C: He was hurt, like, the same way when Red called the Jamaicans on Ghost. It was that same look. It was the same look when he found out that Ghost had manipulated him to kill his father. That was that same look like when he told Keisha, I have to go out right now. That's the same thing he told, I. [00:43:44] Speaker D: Need to borrow your car. [00:43:46] Speaker C: He doesn't. Lawyer. I need to borrow your know, but. [00:43:50] Speaker D: My thing is why Tommy always dirty up the lawyers. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Listen, he got to get it. He got to do it. [00:44:01] Speaker D: Just pay him. They'll fight for you. Just pay him. [00:44:04] Speaker A: You got to get it. How you live. One thing about Tommy is, like you say, he's always 100 steps ahead. He's always. He's more than. [00:44:14] Speaker D: I'm telling you. This niggas running the New York City Marathon and finishing that shit in an hour, and the feds is finishing that shit in, like, hour number five. [00:44:25] Speaker A: He wanted it to be Jennard so bad. I know he wanted it to be Jennard. [00:44:29] Speaker C: So did he did. But I think there's a little bit of relief that it wasn't Jennard. Yeah. [00:44:36] Speaker D: Because that allows him to not have to choose between diamond and Diamond. [00:44:41] Speaker C: Yes. [00:44:46] Speaker D: But the fact that Tommy does know what's going on with Shanti makes it even better. [00:44:54] Speaker A: Right? Tommy going to be dumb. [00:44:58] Speaker D: Listen, I can make this real easy, real quick. [00:45:02] Speaker C: Let's get into rapid fire because I'm going to bring Shanti up in rapid fire. [00:45:06] Speaker D: Let me make it real easy for Tommy real quick. Tommy needs to just move to Mexico or Colombia and run his own cartel. [00:45:14] Speaker C: He need to go to Barcelona with Maria, like she said. Maria said, we're going to go to Barcelona and do the damn thing in Barcelona. But before that, let's get into rapid fire. Okay, Vaughn, to your point. Shanti now. Rapid fire. Point number one. Like, I know the end game is, like, for Shanti to take Tommy out, but I'm literally not clear on her plan. All she's done so far is help. [00:45:53] Speaker A: Tommy show her so I get is. [00:45:58] Speaker C: To earn his trust so he doesn't see it coming. But at a certain point, shouldn't she stop trying to help his ass? [00:46:07] Speaker D: The thing is that you can't stop when you don't have a plan. [00:46:14] Speaker A: She never. [00:46:15] Speaker D: She doesn't have a plan. There's no way out of that tunnel for her. You know what I'm saying? Because she's never really had to think about being a boss. She's always had to just fight for the position she's in so she don't really know how to be a boss. Niggas fear her, and that's it. [00:46:44] Speaker A: Shanti is good at what Shanti does in that. [00:46:49] Speaker C: Boxing. [00:46:51] Speaker D: Boxing. And running Garfield Park. [00:46:53] Speaker A: And running Garfield Park. That's it. [00:46:56] Speaker C: And smashing Janard. [00:46:57] Speaker A: Probably good at making lasagna and slapping Janard upside. [00:47:03] Speaker D: That nigga get bitched around more than a little. [00:47:05] Speaker A: She is out of her league. [00:47:07] Speaker C: Yeah, she definitely is. She definitely is. [00:47:11] Speaker D: Hold up, real quick. That's like when Hasha tried to sell out of the fucking daycare. Niggas. Peep that game early. Yeah, fuck out of here. [00:47:22] Speaker C: Next on my list of dumb asses. DMAC busting out of the youth academy. That shit didn't. [00:47:29] Speaker D: I'm with that shit. [00:47:30] Speaker C: That didn't surprise no fucking body, you know? But what did surprise me was his outburst at JP. DMAC is a child, and obviously the adults in his life know better. But everything you say to him is in one air and out the other. DMAC is going to die. [00:47:50] Speaker D: DMAC ain't done yet. [00:47:55] Speaker C: Before y'all say anything, before y'all say anything, his interaction with JP, his particular part, was some of the worst acting I ever seen in my fucking life. [00:48:09] Speaker D: See, I couldn't look at the acting because I felt this pain. [00:48:14] Speaker C: His acting was horrible, right, exactly. JP was trying. He was like the guy that plays JP. I can't remember his full name. Oh, also, JP played in prison Break, which is one of my favorite. Anyway, JP, like, you can see him struggling to. Like, I'm trying to get in this scene, but you suck him and that dreadwig suck both of them. They tried to cut my dreads. All these bruises on me, Daddy. Like, you let these people throw me away. Shut the fuck up. [00:48:52] Speaker D: You know what? [00:48:54] Speaker A: You can't say that. [00:48:56] Speaker D: All honesty, I chalk that one up to inexperience. You know what mean? Like, you're not an experienced actor because, like, what's her name? Courtney Kemp said there's certain scenes that Ghost had with Tariq. They didn't really know how to approach it when they were filming. So she would say, you got to act with love. So even though you may be saying something harsh, there still has to be that overtone of love in there. And those two characters haven't learned that yet. [00:49:38] Speaker C: JP was way better than DMAC in that. [00:49:40] Speaker D: Now, I'm saying, like, JP might be trying to come with the love, but DMAC is rejecting it, so they just clashing. [00:49:48] Speaker C: DMAC was horrible. Like, DMAC was fucking horrible in that scene. [00:49:53] Speaker D: I did feel that shit. [00:49:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. [00:49:56] Speaker D: Too. [00:49:56] Speaker C: Moving on to Claudia. Claudia, she wants it all and then some. But she's putting so much of her trust in a person she barely knows. Another person who don't know what the fuck she doing. And a group of men who won't hesitate to discard her when she no longer helps them get what they want. What the fuck is Claudia doing? [00:50:17] Speaker A: She don't know. [00:50:19] Speaker D: I'll tell you exactly what she's doing. She is living her entire life right now on consignment. She don't got no bread. She don't got no muscle. She can't get no drugs. She can't do shit. So all she is, the mouth of the South, Jimmy Hart, her dad left. [00:50:46] Speaker A: In a very effed up, like, that's. [00:50:50] Speaker D: Why I say, you know what I'm saying? I have respect for female coos, CEOs, company runners, whatever it is you do, you big dog in that shit. I got a hell of respect for you. I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? But when you just look stupid doing it. Sit down, young lady, and go do what you know how to do best. [00:51:15] Speaker A: I think with Claudia, she's trying to make the Flynn name still be irrelevant and throwing it around like, I'm Claudia Flyn and that dude looking at her like, shoot. [00:51:30] Speaker D: Hold on. You flex my dick. Get hard too, bitch. Calm down. [00:51:34] Speaker C: Yeah. What do you say to her? What do. You're enchanting. [00:51:38] Speaker D: Yeah. He just like to scrape white girls. That's it. [00:51:44] Speaker C: Rub that tattoo on my neck, girl. [00:51:48] Speaker D: Something wrong with that? You know what is the sad part about her character? [00:51:55] Speaker C: That she's going to live to season three. [00:51:58] Speaker D: Her character is more necessary than Vic because Vic fucked. [00:52:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:03] Speaker D: So there has to be someone that Tommy can go fuck up later on. [00:52:09] Speaker A: And it's going to be just jump on bridge. [00:52:14] Speaker D: I guarantee you. Vic killed himself. [00:52:18] Speaker C: I can see that. Okay. SeeIng Tommy talk about Lakeisha was really sad because that was some pretty good acting. No, that was some pretty good acting. I thought Joseph Sakura did a good job in that. Loved his character. Tommy really loved Lakeisha. I think Lakeisha was the first. Lakeisha wasn't the first one to accept him for what he is, but I think Lakeisha was the first one to want more out of him. Whereas Red really, she accepted him for what he is. [00:52:49] Speaker D: Holly was too controlling. [00:52:51] Speaker C: Holly was like. And she was so fucking nosy. Lakeisha was just like, do what you got to do. I get it now. The worst thing was when Tommy brought her into the warehouse with grim and boys, he had the whack ass damn glasses on, and she was trying to be. What's ghost wife's name? [00:53:14] Speaker A: Tasha. [00:53:15] Speaker D: Yeah, but Tasha, you ain't never see. [00:53:18] Speaker C: Tasha flex, like, no, never. And I think that's what she thought Tasha did. [00:53:23] Speaker D: But Tasha flexed and stayed in her lane. And if she had any conversation, she didn't conversate with nobody else. She conversated with Tommy. She conversated with ghosts. And 90% of the time, she conversated with just ghosts. [00:53:36] Speaker C: Yeah. All right, next one. Stacy Marks and Bobby are just fucking never fucking personified. Even if Stacy gets everything she wants professionally, I have no clue how their relationship weathers in the clear. [00:53:53] Speaker D: Need to get a professional dissolve. [00:54:00] Speaker A: He's going to turn on her. She's going to make him turn. [00:54:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Because she wants this so bad for her political career. She is going to fuck this up. It's just. [00:54:11] Speaker D: Yeah, but you know what? That character ain't going because, uh. [00:54:30] Speaker C: Remember, you got to remember, still play for the jets. You got to remember in the original power, right, in the flagship power, there were three different people that ran the Eastern District. Yeah, actually, I think it was four. It was four people that ran Eastern. [00:54:55] Speaker D: You had mock. [00:54:58] Speaker C: Mock. Never ran Eastern. [00:55:01] Speaker D: Oh, that's. No, you're right. Because they give it to Angela for a second. [00:55:05] Speaker C: Hold on, hold on, hold on. [00:55:06] Speaker D: I could tell you, man, Sandoval, but you definitely had. [00:55:10] Speaker C: Tamika was one SandovAl. [00:55:13] Speaker D: Angela had it for a brief second. [00:55:15] Speaker C: The guy after Tamika, and then it was the ball head dupe after was. And then it was the older lady before. [00:55:30] Speaker D: Yes. So you have about five different ones, but they got runoff for different reasons. You know what I'm saying? But I think that her political aspirations is what keeps her close, because there's always that. Because you see, she already fucking with the DOJ. You know what, where. That's where what's his name was at. He was fucking with that shit, too. [00:55:56] Speaker C: See, but I think what's going to happen, and I think she's good for season three. I think she's good to get into season three, but I think in season three, what's going to happen is she's going to resort to those. What's my boy that died in Ghost? [00:56:12] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. What's he talking about? Sax. [00:56:15] Speaker C: Sax. She's going to resort to Sax tactics because she's already on. [00:56:20] Speaker A: Please don't. [00:56:21] Speaker C: She's already teetering on that edge. She's going to be so desperate, I think they're going to fuck no, I'm telling you, when Tommy kills Vic, right? When Tommy kills Vic, it's going to fuck her up so much that she's going to have to go to those tactics in season three, because Vic is all she has. Vic is all she has. [00:56:43] Speaker D: Listen, I bet you by the end of season three that Blanca Rodriguez is. [00:56:51] Speaker C: She did not show up in Chicago. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Chicago. [00:56:55] Speaker C: I can see a scenario where Blanca ends up in Chicago. I'm still waiting and I'm praying to the power gods and. What's the writer's name? What's her name? Courtney Kemp. I'm praying to the writer Gods and Courtney Kemp to please allow Braden and Tariq to show up in Chicago in episode ten. In episode ten. [00:57:20] Speaker D: And you know what? That other. [00:57:22] Speaker C: Because season four. Season four has already been shot. Like, they already finished season four of Ghost. [00:57:30] Speaker D: But I want to see the Spanish fed. The Spanish dude. The Fed. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Oh, Angela's nephew. [00:57:37] Speaker D: Nah, fuck him. He's going to go fuck around and Ghost, he's going to fuck around over there and do shit over there. But the one nigga that was trying to infiltrate, the one that was going undercover with the teardrop, hE's on force. He's on power. He was on power. [00:58:02] Speaker A: The flagship power. [00:58:08] Speaker C: Was he in force for a second? [00:58:11] Speaker D: No. Well, there's a point where. No. He showed up in, like, ghosts. [00:58:17] Speaker C: He showed up in ghosts. You know who you're talking about? [00:58:20] Speaker D: They were talking to each other for a second, and he was like, man, I ain't fucking with that shit. You know what I'm saying? [00:58:29] Speaker C: Oh, my God. What's his name? [00:58:31] Speaker D: Hold on. [00:58:31] Speaker C: Give me a second. [00:58:32] Speaker D: I'm looking at you right now. [00:58:34] Speaker C: Damn. We wasn't prepared for that. [00:58:41] Speaker A: I don't think they bring him. [00:58:43] Speaker C: No, because. [00:58:49] Speaker D: He was in all of them shits, but they never killed him. They never did nothing. [00:58:56] Speaker A: But do you all want him to come into Chicago? [00:59:02] Speaker D: At least that has some good fucking acting. [00:59:11] Speaker A: I want to know why Kate went to New York. New York. [00:59:15] Speaker C: I think that's going to show up in regular power. I think it's going to show up in ghost. Well, while you do that, lastly, I think there's a storyline that's kind of going under the radar that I would like to see a resolution to. I think that I would like to see a resolution with Tommy and all the drama with DMAC, JP and Kate. I really kind of feel away that they haven't quite explored that whole family dynamic a little bit more, especially being that early in the season, they kind of did. And to kind of fall off from that. It's kind of bothered me a little bit. I really kind of felt like that's something that they should have done was kind of go back to that. All right, so we got a new segment here. And I saw you all post in the chat. Well, what the hell is that? It's like top five power players. And this is. We're going to go from five to one. The players that made the biggest power moves in this. At number five, I got basically, I was initially, I was skeptical about his partnership with Claudia, but it seems like his decision to go through with it has paid off. Claudia got the deal done with the Marquez Cartel from Detroit, which I think pushes him well into season three. So that's why he's my number five. Number four, Claudia, she's like, what's not, Celie, what's the other thing from the color purple? Oh, my life I had to fight. [01:00:51] Speaker A: What's the purple? [01:00:53] Speaker D: That would be Miss Sophia. [01:00:57] Speaker C: All my life I had to fight. [01:01:00] Speaker D: Oh, I got you right now. [01:01:02] Speaker C: And I kill him dead before I let him put his hands on me again. So that's my number four. Number three. Maria. Maria Medina. That's his name. Medina. He was the one that helped Greg out. He was the one that. And then in Ghost, he's actually the. I think he's actually the head of Eastern in Ghost, I think he's actually the head of Eastern and Ghost. [01:01:31] Speaker D: That's what some of that acting Courtney. [01:01:35] Speaker C: I can see his role exploring number three on my power moves. Maria, although this has been from getting herself from under the control of her brother this whole entire season, she made a huge power move by choosing Tommy. And not only that, she's always accepted Tommy. And when Tommy said her something about the life, she was like, you forget I was born into this life. Which is the one thing that none of his other girlfriends have. None of them have been born into the life. [01:02:05] Speaker D: They were all outsiders. [01:02:07] Speaker C: Definitely they were all outsiders and living somewhat of a facade in what they thought being in the life was. From what they witnessed, from the know. She knows her commitment by staying with him. She loves. [01:02:28] Speaker D: You know, it's crazy you said that because even Tasha was from the outside. [01:02:34] Speaker C: Yeah, Tasha wasn't born into the. [01:02:37] Speaker D: Only got in because she saw the money and how he treated her. That's what's up. And they only got married because he could trust her. [01:02:48] Speaker C: Yep. My number two on power moves. Top five power moves. Diamond. Diamond laid his demons to rest when he laid old Jamal ass to rest in that sea. Another bad scene. I thought you out at the beach. [01:03:03] Speaker D: That was a very sloppy play. [01:03:05] Speaker C: You at the beach and then you just let the body float out to sea. Like you ain't going to tie it down with no bricks. You ain't going to drag the body back in. [01:03:13] Speaker D: But that might be how they handle bodies in Chicago. [01:03:16] Speaker C: Shit, somebody going to find that bitch floating for real. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Hey, they do everything abroad. [01:03:22] Speaker D: But the crazy part is, you know, it's a murder because the nigga hands is still tied. [01:03:31] Speaker C: Yeah. And then my number one, who would be your number one power move? Who made the biggest power moves in this episode? [01:03:44] Speaker D: Shit. [01:03:46] Speaker A: The number one. [01:03:48] Speaker C: Number one. [01:03:49] Speaker D: Let me think outside of Tommy. [01:03:53] Speaker C: No. Number one. [01:03:55] Speaker A: Please don't say Jennard. [01:03:56] Speaker C: No, it'll be Tommy. [01:03:57] Speaker D: Oh, man. [01:03:58] Speaker C: My number one is Tommy. [01:04:00] Speaker A: That's like a trick question to me. [01:04:02] Speaker D: I thought you was going to go outside of. But, yeah, definitely Tommy. [01:04:06] Speaker C: No. This ain't no outside the box thinking. This is actuality. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Okay? Yes, Tommy did. He made the real power calls. [01:04:16] Speaker D: Everything that he'd been doing, line it up. Everything he'd been doing, line it straight up. It's going to be a wrap for. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Some risk this entire episode. [01:04:31] Speaker C: And big risk, calculated risk. And so. [01:04:36] Speaker D: He said it. He said, we're going to have to put him to the death test. [01:04:44] Speaker C: All right, Eevee, what was your favorite scene? [01:04:53] Speaker D: So all the sex sucked. [01:04:58] Speaker C: There was only one sex scene. [01:05:01] Speaker A: Was it a sex scene? [01:05:03] Speaker D: I don't know. That was mop head. That was a horrible. [01:05:08] Speaker C: Even hike that dress all the way up. [01:05:14] Speaker D: In the last season of Pout. [01:05:17] Speaker C: Yeah. You ain't even see no side cheeks. Like, you need at least some side cheeks. You ain't got nothing. [01:05:21] Speaker D: They could have gave us something. Little brown skin thingy. But I think my favorite scene for this episode is watching diamond deal with Leon's death. That hit me to the heart, you know what I mean? Coming to the house with the sneakers, you know what I'm saying? The realization he peeped game how a nigga did him dirty. But the bitch is still filling. Yeah, she was mad at him at one point. That's why I feel like I like to shoot my predictions out anyway, but that's why I feel like he going to take that boy that killed Leon and bring him to the mother and let her decide what he done, like what she wants done about. [01:06:18] Speaker A: I don't think that's going to happen. [01:06:20] Speaker D: That's a prediction. That's just a prediction. [01:06:23] Speaker C: Okay. What about you, Vaughn? [01:06:26] Speaker A: My favorite scene, I think. I don't have a favorite scene. But I have my favorite moment is when Miguel is recognizing all the moves that Tommy is doing, and Tommy is one up in him. And Miguel sees it. He see it and can't do nothing about it because he's too late about that shit. [01:06:46] Speaker D: Is his grandmother warned him episodes ago, not now, not recently, episodes ago. [01:06:56] Speaker A: And he's gaining. Not saying the trust, whatever guy name. [01:07:01] Speaker C: Is, it's more than respect. [01:07:03] Speaker A: It's more to respect, but it's respect. He's saying, how could you let this man come into your circle and catch your snitch and catch this? And it's like he's always that one step ahead. And Miguel is just looking like a kid that snatched his candy from those moments where Tommy is gaining traction on top of Miguel and seeing that, seeing him lose. [01:07:35] Speaker D: You know what the problem is? I hope this is not real life Chicago living. You know what I mean? But I think the biggest problem with these Chicago cats is that each individual one of them, whether it was the Flyn's or CBI or Miguel or whoever it is that is making the moves out there, the power players, I think their major problem is they're content with where they are. [01:08:10] Speaker C: Yes. [01:08:11] Speaker D: Don't upset the balance completely. And then here comes Tommy. [01:08:19] Speaker C: Upsetting the balance 100%. I think my favorite scene was Tommy finding out that Vic was the snitch and just, I need to borrow your car. Like, that was 100% Tommy. And then he goes and he goes. He finds Vic in the car with the feds. And it's like, if I didn't need more evidence. Here you are, my homeboy. Come on, my white brethren. Come on, man. Like, you couldn't be this stupid. [01:09:01] Speaker A: But all the setup Vic about to have. [01:09:05] Speaker D: Listen, one thing I know about dealing with the police sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes, depending on your low budgetness of your police department, they don't give a fuck. [01:09:22] Speaker C: They will question you wherever. [01:09:28] Speaker D: All they got to do is hop in a car with no tenant windows and just drive around your neighborhood and you're fucked. Yeah, and they're not going to care. [01:09:39] Speaker C: He's done. Well. You know what else is a wrap? [01:09:46] Speaker A: What? [01:09:46] Speaker C: This show is a wrap. [01:09:50] Speaker A: That was right on time. [01:09:52] Speaker C: Amen. Thank you to our listeners for tapping in once again. Vaughn, tell the people how they can find you. [01:09:59] Speaker A: You can find me always on Instagram at one Von Cello. You can find me here every Monday and Thursday, kicking it with my crew Egi as we go over power. And our miss on Thursdays. [01:10:20] Speaker C: Our craziness on Thursday. Evie, tell the people how they can find you. [01:10:26] Speaker D: You can find me on Instagram. That's bigkidenvi underscore chops. As well as the Facebook page experts and ignorance. And the Instagram page grits the letter N ignorance. And if you're looking to follow the show or catch the lives, I did post the live links. The links are in the bio. So follow the Instagram page. [01:10:55] Speaker C: Click the links, and get in there. [01:10:58] Speaker D: And the emails in there, too. Email us. Yeah, man, I need some top five ideas. [01:11:04] Speaker C: Yeah, we need a top five for Thursday. [01:11:08] Speaker D: Top five. Worst wigs ever. It's coming. [01:11:12] Speaker C: Don't forget to tap in on Thursday, man. We're going to be here with all the foolishness, man. Also, you could catch me on Instagram and Snapchat at the 9th wonder on Facebook. Yoshi. English on Twitter, aka X at I am Coachy Underscore. And on. What's the other shit? TikTok. R-E-L-S-T-A-T. Podcast. You can also try catch me on my podcast, relationship status podcast each and every Monday and Wednesday until Thursday. Y'all. Man, thank you for tapping in, man. We'll see y'all on Thursday. Peace. [01:11:50] Speaker D: Our at your people. [01:12:15] Speaker A: It. [01:12:16] Speaker C: Now I'm part of it. Are you saying this shit because you really not looking to expand or because you finally get some pussy on the regulator that got your head all fucked up? Let me tell you, pussy. That shit come and go, nigga. But this shit right here, that should change everything, nigga. Then let's put the needle on the racket. [01:12:39] Speaker A: You close.

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