EGI Presents Power Book III: Raising Kanan Episode 309 "Home to Roost"

EGI Presents Power Book III: Raising Kanan Episode 309 "Home to Roost"
Eggs, Grits, & Ignorance
EGI Presents Power Book III: Raising Kanan Episode 309 "Home to Roost"

Feb 05 2024 | 01:18:21

Episode February 05, 2024 01:18:21

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Yusuf In The Building Ibby Von

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Hosts: Ibby, Von, & Yoshi

️✨ Join the EGI Presents Power Book III Raising Kanan Season 3 conversation! In Episode 309, "Home to Roost," we're diving into Ronnie's dilemma, Raq's shifting focus, Famous' opportunity, revelations, face-offs, unraveling secrets, loyalty, consequences, and the climactic moment!

Want to be part of the discussion? Shoot us an email at [email protected]!  

Today's hot topics include Ronnie's partnership with Kanan, Raq's maternal struggles, Famous' hurdles, FBI interrogations, and a dark, eerie ride with Raq, Marvin, and Lou. Plus, a Rapid Fire Segment and segments like "Your Favorite Scene," "File This Away for Later," "Then & Now," and "Winners & Losers."

Don't miss the climactic moments and unraveling secrets! ️‍♂️

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[00:01:28] Speaker B: I've been through the ups and downs, you know, I get around sort of me call a part of the game. If I ain't the co man or. [00:01:35] Speaker C: The dope man, I'm almost a showmate. [00:01:37] Speaker B: I gotta think you and we are back for another episode of eggs, grits and ignorance. Presents powerbook three raising Canaan. We are recapping episode three nine entitled Home to Roost. I'm with the all star team, not the second team. At big kid, mv, underscore chops, and at sweet baby V. What's happening, y'all? [00:02:08] Speaker D: Hey, what's up? [00:02:10] Speaker B: Ain't nothing much, man, out here trying to live in these streets. [00:02:12] Speaker C: Let me give you all an applause, man. [00:02:19] Speaker B: I know y'all wondering, hey, y'all, it's Sunday. What y'all doing here? Y'all supposed to be here tomorrow. Well, here's the deal. Here's the deal. Life be like. We had to go ahead and make some changes and shifts. And so now, from now on, our recaps will be on Sunday nights at seven. I know we had eight, but this is a change today. So just know going forward Sunday night at get. I don't even want to wait. Let's get right into it. Eevee, what's your thoughts on the episode? [00:02:55] Speaker C: I like the episode. I think the episode was very informative. A lot happened and shit is changing for everybody, no matter what. So every character had a change. [00:03:11] Speaker D: Yes, I agree with you. I actually enjoyed this episode, even though it wasn't a lot of action action. But it was a lot of, like you said, everybody has a place. You can kind of see the shift taking in every character's position. It's interesting to see how it plays out in the last episode because this is the turning point for the next episode. And I'm telling you, I'm here for it. [00:03:46] Speaker B: See, what I've noticed about raising Canaan is it's the show with the least amount of action. Force is built completely on action. That's mostly because I think the acting isn't really good. So it's got to pull us in with a bunch of action to cover up for the think that. I think that raisin Canaan has the best storyline. Okay, well, I'll play the other side. It might be because we're probably the most vested because we're waiting to see how we get to the flagship power, whereas everything else is like an aftermath. We're kind of vested in Tariq and what he does because of his intelligence level, and then we're kind of vested in Tommy because I would say out of all of the characters in the power universe, Tommy is probably the most well liked character outside of Ghost just because of the way he moved, how ruthless he is. I think that, for the most part, Canaan is the best storytelling of all of the shows in the universe as the best storytelling. [00:05:02] Speaker D: And I think it's needed to be a storytelling. So you can't understand how the flagship and you can't understand how Tommy, you can understand all the dynamics. So I think it needs to start off as a storytelling. [00:05:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I think this one has probably the most. This particular branch off of the universe has the most potential for having the most seasons outside of the other ones, because the other ones, you got to kind of make up stuff with this. Yeah, you got to make it up, but you know where you're going. [00:05:41] Speaker C: Yeah, we know how it's going to. [00:05:44] Speaker B: How. We just don't know how they know. [00:05:47] Speaker D: Canaan is going to end up going to jail. Jew was going to end up being a police officer. Crooked one. We know that Tasha and Ghost had something to do with Kanan going to jail. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Angela's involved with ghost. So, like, how did we go from. It's still stuff to come up. Like, how did Ghost go from Angela to. [00:06:13] Speaker D: Think? Eb said, next season, that's when Angela's going to be introduced into the storyline. Because, remember, they met at. [00:06:22] Speaker B: They met. They met at the high school. [00:06:25] Speaker C: They met in Queens. In the high school. [00:06:26] Speaker B: They met at Queens in regular high school. And Angela left and went to choke. [00:06:29] Speaker D: Yeah, Angela went to choke. Okay. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah, but Tasha, they didn't meet Tasha till Tasha was in college, right? [00:06:35] Speaker C: Yeah, Tasha was in college, and she. [00:06:37] Speaker B: Dropped out of college to be with, like, we know where we're going. There's so many things that still have to come into play. So that's why I feel like the storytelling on this is so much more well done than force and ghost. [00:06:59] Speaker D: And it makes sense because what's her name, the cousin Juke. Juke end up leaving Canaan because Canaan is still in high school. Canaan's way. 11th grade should be at least 11th grade. Have one more year left in school where Juke has. She's about to graduate. [00:07:16] Speaker B: Yeah, she's about to be because she's 18. Because actually she's 18. Nobody had to sign for her to sign up for the army, which I think. And we going to get into it. [00:07:26] Speaker D: Okay. [00:07:27] Speaker B: Because that shit the FBI did was so fucked up, they literally could have wait. I'm going to tell you what I don't understand. I don't understand why they didn't wait. They could have pulled her in afterwards. It was so much other ways that this could have gone that they did not do. And I thought that it was some bullshit how you pull a girl off the stage because now she's out the group. [00:07:59] Speaker D: When does the police ever care about your life? They don't care. [00:08:04] Speaker B: That's a fact. But I'm just saying, it's not like they were saying that she was the one dealing the drugs. They were after her dad. So you could have waited. That's my only. Like I could understand if Marvin was on the damn stage singing, you know what I mean? [00:08:22] Speaker D: She's an extension of him. So they gonna do what they gonna do. [00:08:25] Speaker B: No, I get that. I get that she's an extension of him. But my point was, and drop it in the comments. Tell me if you agree with me or not. But I feel like with Juke, they could have waited till tomorrow. The ash. It didn't have to happen in that moment. [00:08:43] Speaker C: But it didn't. But it. [00:08:46] Speaker D: Oh, they embarrassed herself. [00:08:50] Speaker B: The whole thing is, it's like, yo, first off, one thing built on top the other, right? Like, she ain't rattled girl out and said that old girl jumped her. Her got. Got her people to jump her in the train station in the subway. So being that she didn't do that, she just came in and was like, yo, whatever. Old girl knows, she was in the fight. [00:09:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:14] Speaker B: And then now you got the FBI. Like, yo, FBI records incorporated. No, say FBI records Incorporated. That's what label you from and took care of. Like, I just felt like after Juke kills it on, like, she literally would have became a star that day because literally, she took over that stage like nobody else could fuck with her. There was her backup singers and dancers. Them other girls was not even on the same level as her. And I just feel like they could have just waited. Being that she's not an adult. She's a like, they could have waited. But they so damn hard up for Marvin when Marvin ain't even the person you're supposed to be. [00:10:03] Speaker D: I want to say that all of our predictions were wrong about how Juke leaves the group, and that's not true. It is, because we thought girl was going to be the reason for her. [00:10:17] Speaker C: I always said she was going to the army, she was going to go to that. [00:10:21] Speaker D: We didn't know how she was going to go. Now we thought, not crystal, what's the girl? Other girl? [00:10:27] Speaker C: I was like, 5% right. [00:10:30] Speaker D: Come on now. [00:10:35] Speaker C: I said a lot of core for 2.5. [00:10:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:10:41] Speaker B: Well, I posted earlier today. Well, first off, what? You guys rank the episode one through ten. [00:10:49] Speaker D: I'm going to write it a seven. [00:10:50] Speaker B: A seven. [00:10:52] Speaker C: I'll give it an eight. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Eight. I gave it an eight. I gave it eight. And we're a lot less generous than Shauna. Shauna gave the episode a ten. So now the questions I asked were, I said, drop your thoughts. On episode 309 home to roost. What are your thoughts on rock's moves? Where do you think they take in Lulu? Do you think Marvin gave Gerald the hotshot? Do you think Canaan can take Rock out? All right, so there's the questions I asked. Shauna said Rock is moving, how she needs to move. I don't think they will kill Lou. I think they're putting them in someplace safe. Canaan will attempt to take his mom out because he's still in his feelings, but it's going to backfire on him. I don't think Marvin gave Gerald a hot shot. Gerald was dealing with his own. He killed himself and feeling sorry for. I was. I wasn't saying that. [00:11:39] Speaker C: No, I'm responding to that. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Yeah, we know Gerald injected himself, but did Marvin? Because we don't see it. We don't see Gerald buy it. We don't see nothing. Did Marvin give him the hotshot? Is the question that I was posing. Do you think it's just like. Do we think because in episode ten, if he did, it will come out? Not in the sense of the FBI finding out, but it might be a flashback. It might be a yeah, I took care of know type of let's. Let's just go ahead and dive right in because just real quick on that. [00:12:20] Speaker C: Like, I really feel like Marvin killed him, in the sense of his words. [00:12:26] Speaker D: That's it. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm going to get to that. I didn't want mean. I'm with y'all on that. I want to get you guys reaction to this right here. [00:12:43] Speaker D: Okay? [00:12:48] Speaker B: Who that? That's the nigga going to tell us. We got a business, Gump. It. I'm afraid my cows won't be able to work with you anymore. Your business relationship and any other kind of relationship you may have had with her is done. The only reason you're not dead is that your investors asked me to spare your life. This is about Rock. This is about me. I gave my word that I would not supply heroin to South Jamaica, and I'm a man of my word, which is the reason you're still breathing. Now, let me say this before I get into my question. This was the first person I saw put Ronnie in his place. Like, nigga, like, literally, the reason you still breathing is because I gave my word to your investors that I would not take you out. And Ronnie had that look. Like, he still looked hard, but it was like he had a different type of look on his face. So, how do you feel? And this is to you, sweet baby v. How do you think Ronnie's confrontation with Joaquin affects his partnership with. [00:15:03] Speaker D: Me? Let me answer this question. I mean, this answer. He was outnumbered. So, number one, that he could do, even if he wanted to be Mr. Tough guy, he didn't understand, because, remember, he was like, he's never late. And he told dude to drive off. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Don't leave. [00:15:24] Speaker D: Yeah. And then here comes Joaquin and his crew. So he was outnumbered. That's number not. I don't think he was scared. I think he was kind of confused until Joaquin came to him and said what? He said, now there's going to be a rift in Canaan and Ronnie, because you see how he handled famous when famous came over to the crib, and it's like, enough is enough, dude. Like, you're just doing too much. I understand you are who you are, but come on, listen. You ain't going to control me. And I think famous needs to kind of, like we said before, get that same confidence that Canaan has, because famous is just weak. I was trying to root for the dude, but it just ain't possible. [00:16:15] Speaker B: It just ain't possible. [00:16:16] Speaker D: And so Kanan, looking at Ronnie like, dude, like, you're doing too much. And then now sitting at the table, coming to a decision. I'm with you, Eb, Kanan ain't going to take out his mama because he's sitting there and looking at all this going, regardless of the fact his mama always tried to protect him no matter what went down, how nasty, how things got out of hand, his mom always tried to protect think because I at first, like, yeah, he gonna take his mama out because he's so much in a rage. But I really think Canaan is going to. Lord, please don't let me be wrong, but I think Canaan is going to be that middle person that's going to feed his mom information about what's going on. But he's going to play the game like he's with pops and snaps and Ronnie, because they know what Rock has done to him, and Ronnie knows that. Everybody knows that they despises rock. And right now, I think he got to play that role. [00:17:23] Speaker B: All right, so, Eb, speaking of roles, so what role does Rock play in Ronnie's issues? Like, we know Rock did what she did and got that shit done, but Ronnie been blaming Rock since he got out of jail. [00:17:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that was self explanatory. [00:17:39] Speaker B: It's not self explanatory. [00:17:45] Speaker C: You've been blaming her for everything. So everything that goes wrong is Raquel, you know what I'm saying? And really and truly, like I said in the text, you're a victim of your own decisions. You know what you did. You do what you do. You got caught up the way you got caught up. Kelly do shit to you. She just a competition, and she the best at it so far. You know what I'm saying? So he just got it out for her. He want to be where she's at. [00:18:19] Speaker D: How long was he in jail? In prison? [00:18:22] Speaker C: I don't know. Not long enough. [00:18:24] Speaker D: Like ten years, wasn't it? [00:18:26] Speaker C: Like ten years? They didn't really say, I don't think. [00:18:28] Speaker D: Okay. [00:18:29] Speaker C: I'm not 100% sure. Well, I honestly don't know how long he's in there. Long enough to become out crazier. You know what I'm saying? [00:18:40] Speaker D: Right. [00:18:41] Speaker C: But he's a fool, and he's stupid for blaming other people for his shit. He need to take ownership and just. If he was more worried about making the bread, then he wouldn't have the issues that he has with Raquel. I don't think shit would have even went down like that if he was focused more on just making the bread, because then he would have just figured his own way out instead of fucking trying to use Canaan against Raquel. You know what? Should have. What he really should have did was took unique up on his offer and figured out how to make that fucking chinese store shit work. You know what I'm saying? That chinese store shit would have been dope no matter what. You see how that shit is clicking and popping? [00:19:44] Speaker B: They putting the white girl in the white rice, right? [00:19:49] Speaker C: Let me get that special. And then you see, they threw that. They threw that up there in Spanish. But only thing that confuses me about that is what if somebody that don't do drugs come in there and order that special? [00:20:08] Speaker B: They gonna get this special, right? [00:20:16] Speaker C: We know how. No more. [00:20:18] Speaker B: So what we saw moving on the rock, Vaughn, what we saw here, and this is, and I'm asking this question in a minute. Rock kind of realized that what she's doing is you saw it in her. Like, it's ineffective when dealing with, like, the more you push, the more he pulls. So literally that's not working. So let's kind of address the apology that she gives to jukebox. Vaughn, how does Rock's relationship with Kanan impact her interactions with jukebox? Like, why do you think she went down that road to apologize to her niece? [00:21:04] Speaker D: Because she already lost one person. She's lost him. She doesn't want Juke to lose the love of family. Lose the love, the sight. Know, we may be fucked up as a family, but we're still a family. And I think when she went to Juke and had that conversation and, you know, I'll go and check on know, she did it out of this. She was really sincere about it, but at that moment, Rock was like, no, this is all about you. And she was happy for once. No one wanted her to do a favor. She didn't have to do any favors. And she felt like it was all about her because no one ever asked her, how are you doing? What is your day like, what's going on in your mind? You're doing all this stuff behind our backs. And I think she was lost in the family and they didn't understand until she saw that letter. Like, damn, all this been going on and we couldn't see it. We couldn't see that you've been searching to find yourself and to know what you want to do out of life. We so busy worrying about Canaan and trying to get him back that we forgot about you. So I think in that moment, she wanted her to know. Know, don't lose the love of family or you are thought of or not forgotten. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Let's hear that scene real quick. [00:22:31] Speaker E: Hey, baby. Like you already ordered. I'm going to just get the same thing always guess. [00:22:44] Speaker B: Now, what I must say is Rock's outfit at this lunch is fucking on. [00:22:50] Speaker E: Screen for you on that stage at the top of my damn look. Thank you. I know it's circulating for you, but came to the house. Looks like you used our old address by accident, so they fought it to the new spot. I changed the address, but I guess this one got through. I ain't look at the name one. I just figured it was Cana, so I opened it. [00:23:21] Speaker C: Lie on me. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:26] Speaker E: That's what you want? I don't know. [00:23:31] Speaker D: I thought it was, but I'm not sure no more. [00:23:36] Speaker E: So you tell your father yet? Can't even guess what he's going to say about it. [00:23:41] Speaker D: Probably just take a lot of really deep breaths. [00:23:44] Speaker E: Yeah, that man and his breathing. Look, I ain't the one offering no life advice to nobody. Every day that passes, I realize how little I know about things and how much I got to learn. But I just want you to be happy, June. And if you can find a happiness in the army, go find it. But if it's his singing on that stage, do that, grab that, be that. Because all I want for you is to find your joy. That's all I ever wanted for you. Thanks, Rock. Tired of you kids growing up. Why couldn't you just stay little for longer? [00:24:33] Speaker B: It just seems like Rock is in the place of, hey, my kids are growing everything because she was the mother figure for Juke. And sometimes when you have your own child, like she had Canaan, when things are going rough with your biological child, who you birthed, or as a father, it sometimes give way to the other child that may be in the home just off of instinct, because you're like, oh, shit, I got to pour poor, poor, poor, poor into them. And I think to a certain degree, she kind of lost track of juke. So, Evie, what does Rock's apology to juke reveal about Rock's character? [00:25:22] Speaker C: Shit. Nothing to me. [00:25:27] Speaker D: She's a protector. It should reveal in her own right, she's a protector. [00:25:33] Speaker C: That's what it revealed to you. It didn't reveal that to me. To me, it's like too little, too late. Granted, I will say that those words did help her, because we see clearly that jukebox is lost. And she'd been lost for a minute since the white girl died. You know what I'm saying? She'd been lost. Especially when she lost her mother. She's still even more lost, you know what I mean? So I feel like the words help, but I feel like with Raquel, everything is self serving. [00:26:18] Speaker B: I thought that this was one of the moments where she wasn't being self serving. [00:26:23] Speaker C: Right. Like I said, that's more of an overall in the moment. I feel like it helped, but to me, she's still the same person, because she lied when she said the bullshit about opening it. And then she realized that that shit wasn't going to. What's up with Canaan? Shit wasn't going to work, so she had to make it about. [00:26:53] Speaker B: Right. And then this happens. Got to press play. God damn it. There we go. [00:27:02] Speaker E: I'm only this one track, but color me a fan. Now you also do the production? [00:27:08] Speaker B: No, that's my man Lou. Lou Thomas. [00:27:10] Speaker C: Okay. [00:27:11] Speaker B: He does all that. [00:27:12] Speaker E: I told you about Lou on the phone. He's also incredibly talented, right? You get old like me, you start to get dane Bramage famous. I don't recommend it. Fun and little to hear some of yours and Lou's work, because I thought maybe you guys could collaborate. So what do you think, famous? You want to get into some trouble together? [00:27:36] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:27:37] Speaker E: Then let's get a meeting on the books, all of us, me, you, and the other guy. Lou, have you heard from? [00:27:46] Speaker B: I've been. I've been talking to him all the time. I'm going to hit him after this to make the meeting happen. [00:27:52] Speaker E: You're talented, famous, and I'm rich. And I've been at this long enough to know that that combination often translates to success. [00:28:01] Speaker C: Shit hurts my head. [00:28:04] Speaker B: What hurts your head? [00:28:06] Speaker C: Listening to fucking Gerald fucking downstein ii bullshit. A garbage ass rapper. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Hey, man, according to that is hard. [00:28:23] Speaker C: Whatever. [00:28:24] Speaker B: Okay, so let me ask you this. What challenges do you think famous faces? What challenges does he encounter? What do you think on his pursuing of this record deal? [00:28:38] Speaker C: Nothing. First of all, the nigga is about to be. So it's not going to work out because they don't have Lou. You're missing a piece, so that shit is a wrap. And like I said before, not only is famous going to jail for life, he's going for possession of a weapon that was used in the commission of a crime, murder. And the fucking evidence is on the fucking tape that he took. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Like, if I was him, I'd have left the gun at the cribo where the crazy niggas live. [00:29:27] Speaker C: Fame is done. His goose is cooked. So my man Gerald Upstein II, he's only going to show up in next episode, and it's a rap for him. That character is gone. Fame is gone, too. Fame going to jail, period. [00:29:50] Speaker B: What about you? [00:29:52] Speaker D: I'm laughing at Ebi because he called Gerald. What you talking Gerald? [00:29:56] Speaker B: What Gerald? [00:29:57] Speaker C: Steam up. Steam? Come on, man. You know how that should be. No, here's the thing. [00:30:02] Speaker B: You can't call him Gerald because we already have a Gerald. So you got to come up with something else. [00:30:07] Speaker C: Who's Gerald? [00:30:08] Speaker D: Because the two ain't the same. [00:30:10] Speaker C: Who's Gerald? [00:30:11] Speaker D: You can't put Gerald and Davis in the same category. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Wait, hold on. [00:30:15] Speaker D: The only thing they have similar is their week. That's the only thing similar. [00:30:20] Speaker C: Who's Gerald? Who's the other Gerald? [00:30:23] Speaker B: I must have messed up. [00:30:24] Speaker C: I thought his name was George. [00:30:26] Speaker D: No, it's Gerald. [00:30:27] Speaker B: It's Gerald. [00:30:28] Speaker C: Well, he's dead. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Fuck y'all. Me second guessing my damn self. Like, I was like, wait, I know. I watched this bitch, like, three times. I know the motherfucking name is Gerald. What the fuck is he talking. [00:30:41] Speaker C: I thought his name was George. Whatever. [00:30:43] Speaker D: No, Gerald. [00:30:44] Speaker B: George. Oh, my God. We suck at recaps because we don't know the fucking character. [00:30:51] Speaker D: I knew. [00:30:54] Speaker C: I just thought he said his name was George. [00:30:56] Speaker B: My bad. [00:30:57] Speaker C: I know. He called him G. He called him. [00:31:00] Speaker B: G. He called him G. He do. [00:31:05] Speaker D: I'm with you. Famous ain't going to get nowhere because Lou did all the producing. Lou was producing. Engineered the whole track, his music. [00:31:15] Speaker C: Lou was even doing the gassing because he gassed him into saying the whack ass bars. I didn't know my life was about to be a gun. I got a honey bun. [00:31:28] Speaker D: Well, you can't use your lyrics against you right now. That part had to. [00:31:33] Speaker B: No, that's bullshit. [00:31:34] Speaker C: Because back then, Luke was still fighting for that shit. All that shit is evidence. [00:31:42] Speaker D: This was in 92 when all this went down. [00:31:44] Speaker C: Yeah, Luke was fighting that shit. 9291-9394 all that shit. [00:31:51] Speaker D: Famous is. Yeah, I think this is last season. I can't see him going into season four. [00:31:58] Speaker C: We got to see him go to prison. [00:32:01] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:32:02] Speaker D: Yeah, I forgot your question. But famous, he's dead. [00:32:11] Speaker C: What obstacles does he have with getting. [00:32:15] Speaker B: Up to this record deal? [00:32:19] Speaker D: I think all this stuff that's going to happen with Detective Howard, I think all of this right here is about to unfold every connecting piece to everything. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Now, it's funny you said that because I wanted to. It's so connected to this. Howard. Get the father to file a complaint. And how do you know he did it? Doesn't matter how I know. As for why he did it, I don't have an answer for you. All I can say is, in my 40 years in the NYPD, I never heard of a cop going to a civilian and asking them to press charges against their partner. The Binghams raised holy hell because they thought Shannon supplied the drugs that killed their daughter. But that investigation was dead on arrival. The Bingham daughter's friend, someone named Laverne Thomas, said definitively that it wasn't Shannon who gave her the drug. Laverne Thomas. Jesus Christ. I forgot about her and all this. When we made this shit go away. That girl went with it. [00:33:31] Speaker E: Fuck. [00:33:36] Speaker B: So I fully believe that. First off, let me tell you something. Kept a special detective Howard, I believe is like a cockroach. And he gonna be here after the nuclear bomb go off. Then they get slicker than a snicker. [00:33:55] Speaker C: He's a water bug. He wanted a big ass african hissing brooches. Because I never expected Howard to come in that room and admit it. Like, yeah, nigga, you told me to do this. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Cover it up. Like, what the fuck you want me to do? And I'm like, if that ain't a slick motherfucker, he put it right back. [00:34:24] Speaker C: In that nigga lap and he got himself off, at least off of that anyway. [00:34:29] Speaker B: Well, Vaughn, let me ask you this, Vaughn. How do you think that Captain Burke's grief affects the storyline? [00:34:37] Speaker D: Only affects how? Because of her dad. Her dad is not going to let it die. He is still grieving because in his heart of heart, he feels like his daughter. Everybody knows their child to a certain degree, right? You know when your child lying, you know when your child is out there having sex, you just know. And for him, it's like, Shannon may have been a number of things, but she's not going to kill herself over, like, she's not going to kill herself. It's more to the story. And I think the grieving of her death is not allowing him to rest. That's why he keeps searching for. [00:35:26] Speaker B: You before we throw it to you, Evie. I think he was all willing to let it rest until Medina kind of threw that grenade in that episode right after her funeral. Even though she has now faded to black. That damn grenade she threw kind of has him like, well, maybe there is more. Well, maybe something did happen. All these maybes that come about when you're dealing with grief that don't allow you to let go, whether it's justified or not, I think it does make you hold on. So, Evie, how does Captain Burke's grief affect the storyline? [00:36:10] Speaker C: He's a scumbag. Captain Burke, he's a scumbag. All right. So when he was sitting there talking to the father, the white dude with the father, he said Shannon was a better cop than he was. I feel like he was one of them dickhead motherfuckers, know bled blue and did a whole bunch of bullshit. You know what I'm saying? That's why he agrees that she's a better cop than he was or a better person in general. [00:36:50] Speaker B: I kind of go with you there. [00:36:51] Speaker C: So all he's going to do is shake shit up. And as long as he keeps shaking shit up, is going to keep pushing them. Kind of like how Sachs always kept saying, this person is ghost, that person's ghost, this person's ghost, that person's ghost. And he would never let it go. [00:37:11] Speaker B: But I think Sax never really knew. He didn't really knew. Like, Sachs was speaking ignorantly. [00:37:18] Speaker C: None of the motherfuckers, nobody knows. The more shit happens, somebody got to shake the shit. You know what I mean? [00:37:25] Speaker D: So answer this question, as a father, would you let it go? Or would you still inquire if your gut is telling you it's something there? Do you not follow your gut? Or do you just let it be? [00:37:43] Speaker B: I just think that my view on grief is a little bit different, okay? Because I think Eb could speak more. [00:37:51] Speaker C: To this than I can, honestly. I could have went harder. Like, why was this? But when I literally walked in my house, I put the two pieces together. This is what happened. Boom, boom, boom. You know what I'm saying? But I could have went down to the fucking coroner's office and be like, nah, my son wouldn't have did that. Check for fingerprints, do this, do that. Do this for what? At some point, knowing who killed your kid or knowing who did something don't solve it, you still going to feel every fucking bit of pain you have to feel? Because every day I wake up with the sense it's like, why didn't I teach him a different way? I blame myself, even though I shouldn't. So that's all he's doing. He's blaming himself and then trying to put the pieces together that she couldn't put together. So if I solved the puzzle, if I solved this puzzle, a 300 piece puzzle, if I solved it before my son solved the puzzle, is that going to bring my son back? Or is that going to fill that fucking space in my heart? Fuck no. You know what I'm saying? So at some point, you do got to concede when it comes to trying to figure out why, you know, what I'm saying? [00:39:23] Speaker D: Especially when you have no leads to go on. [00:39:26] Speaker C: All right? So my son, I never really put it out there on here, but my son died from carbon monoxide poison. You know what I'm saying? The cops could have been like, yo, he committed suicide. Yeah, because he was the only one in the house. There was no signs of forced injury, nothing. Niggas couldn't even get in my house until I gave them the code to get in my house. You know what I'm saying? And they had to bust down my bedroom door. But when I very first walked in that door, I saw the generator. I saw how it was plugged in. I saw the air conditioner plugged in. I saw his phone on the counter. I'm not no cop. I ain't no detector. But you could put two and two together. You could see where he came upstairs, went to sleep, woke up, went back downstairs, came back upstairs. You can see all of the evidence. You know what? But when you're. When you're a shithead and a dirt bag, which Detective Burke is, because he was that towards his daughter because she was a fucking lesbian, you know what I'm saying? You can't fill the void that you put there. You're never going to fill that fucking void. [00:40:47] Speaker B: And I think that that was my major point. I think in asking that question, I had come to the realization that he's doing this out of guilt, not out of mourning. He feel guilty for how he treated her. Because remember, we got to remember last season when he was telling her, let it go. Just let it go. This has nothing to do with you. And what has it got to do with your lifestyle? And all of that stuff was coming up, and realizing that you are personally not 100%, but a portion of why your child committed suicide, well, we know she wasn't. She didn't commit suicide. But to him, the thing got to start. [00:41:42] Speaker C: For him. Only thing that's going to solve is who killed your kid. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:47] Speaker C: All of the other transgressions, they're not going to go away. You got to look yourself in the fucking mirror every day knowing that. Hell, if you fucking pull some strings. Because since you such a highly decorated detective, if you had to pull some strings to maybe help her out, she might not be dead. What's the name would be maybe not necessarily locked up, but at least fired, you know what I'm saying? [00:42:21] Speaker D: Because might be guilt on his part. [00:42:25] Speaker C: Listen, if you think about it, can't nobody charge Detective Howard with a crime for having sex with Raquel. If it came out that that was his kid, and you flash it back and you make her into a minor and he's the adult and all of that good shit, who's really pressing the charges? The most they're going to say is this is a black eye on the department. You got to go. [00:42:56] Speaker D: But Howard name is just being tossed around in every direction you turn. [00:43:02] Speaker B: Yeah, but you need to be he going to get it going. [00:43:08] Speaker C: He in on everything just the same way. It's just like with Angela. Every time Angela turned around, Angela was. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Put right back in analytics. I like the parallel, because if you notice in every single power, there is somebody within the law office, there's an inside man. Yeah, not necessarily inside, because I don't think Angela meant to be inside. I think that she meant to do her job. [00:43:37] Speaker D: She just happened to be inside, but. [00:44:02] Speaker B: She didn't know that she was fucking Casper. All right. They're probably ghosts. [00:44:11] Speaker C: Going to have to keep this meetup short. [00:44:13] Speaker E: I got shit to do. [00:44:15] Speaker B: You mind? [00:44:16] Speaker E: Hungry cell over here. [00:44:17] Speaker C: Have at. [00:44:17] Speaker B: It's for the girls, but they haven't touched any of it. [00:44:19] Speaker C: Humble. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Getting closer on this. [00:44:27] Speaker C: Fix your shit. We can have it back. Fuck wrong with you? It's attached to his shit right now, I'm getting better. His life is life. [00:44:42] Speaker E: I know you got a lot going on. [00:44:47] Speaker C: I'm good. [00:44:50] Speaker E: You breaking up with me? A sign? [00:44:52] Speaker C: No, not at all. [00:44:54] Speaker B: I just don't want to be a bird. [00:44:58] Speaker C: How many more times I got to. [00:44:59] Speaker E: Tell you how this friendship thing work? [00:45:01] Speaker C: It ain't a bird. [00:45:06] Speaker E: I got to get some flowers to do, so later. You're coming through, right? [00:45:11] Speaker B: Of course. This performance will be the last piece I need for my story. [00:45:15] Speaker E: See you there's. [00:45:26] Speaker C: Can't trust no junkie zero. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Look, I just need to talk. [00:45:44] Speaker C: Just going from scene to scene, I guess. [00:45:48] Speaker D: Not going to pause it. [00:45:53] Speaker B: Come on into my bad, John. I ran that shit a little bit too long. I was trying to press pause, but that shit wouldn't pause. [00:46:01] Speaker C: His pause was not pausing. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah, my pause wasn't. We, what do we think from. Oh, shit, we got some comments. Goddamn, I didn't even see that shit. I knew Gerald was playing Marvin. We said that last week. Yep, we did. Marvin wasn't dumb enough. He stuck with the points about Juke, not providing no more info. I did like the way that Marvin played the whole. [00:46:33] Speaker C: Because I don't even think that was intentional. I think it was more or less. We're not never going to talk about what I do. However, we can have a friendship outside of what I do? [00:46:48] Speaker B: Outside of what I do, yes, wholeheartedly. [00:46:51] Speaker C: Because if I bring you into my world, I think he wanted something clean. You know what I mean? [00:47:03] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. I think I felt a level of compassion for. In that. In that he saw Gerald as a friend. He saw him as a genuine friend. I'm here for your children. I'm here to help you out of this hole, because the doctor not here no more. So I'm here for you. She started something I want to finish, and I want to make sure that we both make it to the finish line, because I'm not done being the person I am. I still have growing to do. And by us supporting one another, we both can grow through this experience and with each other. And I think Gerald saying that letting him know he was working with the feds was a shot to Marvin's heart. It's almost, yo, you cheating on, like, it was almost that. You know what mean? Like, you legitimately are cheating on me with the feds. And although they weren't in a relationship, it's a metaphor, a friendship. [00:48:08] Speaker D: I trusted you. We've been down this road together. We seen each other dark know. [00:48:15] Speaker B: I get what you're think that. I think that this situation with Gerald affected how cold he was to Lulu. No matter what we figure he ends up doing with Lulu, no matter whether they kill Lulu, they take him to a rehab, they tuck him away in a cabin in the woods. I don't fucking know. Whatever it is that happens. He was really cold towards Lou in a way which we've never seen Marvin be cold. Even when he's had to kill somebody, you've never seen him that cold. [00:48:51] Speaker C: Now, when you got to turn your back on somebody you love, you can't be compassionate. [00:48:57] Speaker D: You can't. [00:48:58] Speaker C: You got to be cold. How many times you see the stupid movies where they got to kick dog out the car, but you got to yell at the fucking dog to get the dog to run away from you? It's the same difference. You know what I'm saying? You can't show up with love because then the nigga going to think everything okay, nas not. [00:49:27] Speaker D: I don't know where they're taking Marvin. I mean, Lou, but tough love is what he never. He always has somebody to carry him. [00:49:38] Speaker C: What y'all say? We ain't see nobody, so he ain't dead? [00:49:46] Speaker D: No, I ain't say he was dead. I said I don't know where they're taking him. [00:49:50] Speaker C: Rehab. You got to take him to rehab. [00:49:54] Speaker D: Listen, look, you can't take the man for him to go because what he's going to do in rehab, spill the beans that he's already done before. [00:50:03] Speaker C: Nah, see, he only talk when he's drunk. He don't talk when he's sober. [00:50:10] Speaker D: So why do you think Marvin gave him that drink? [00:50:15] Speaker C: Your last drink, nigga? [00:50:17] Speaker D: I think it's more to it. [00:50:20] Speaker C: I think it's always something. I got to fuck with your head a little bit. I want you to understand that where we're at, you know what I'm saying? Because at this point, you about to be dead to me. [00:50:40] Speaker B: For real? [00:50:40] Speaker C: For real. Because everything you're doing is putting everybody else shit in jeopardy. Putting everybody in harm's way over one motherfucker. Nigga, I ain't cool. I get it. That was your boy. That was your best friend. That was whatever. So you mean to tell me you love that nigga more than you love me? And I'm your brother, so I got to put a little fear in you. Just a little bit. I don't need you to know what's going to happen. I don't need you to be okay with what's going to happen. I need you to know that you could die tonight. [00:51:15] Speaker D: And I don't know, I can't see the show rundown because Yoshi man blocked me from it. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Oh, shit. [00:51:23] Speaker D: But it's bus. I don't know if you have the Howard in there about the conversation he had with Rock concerning letting Marvin take the fall. [00:51:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. And I had a question. Let me get to that. Let me open that up. My question is, how does rocks. And you could answer this. How does Rock's loyalty impact the unfolding events? How does rock's loyalty to Marvin unpack? How does it impact the unfolding things that's going to happen? Because she's like, animate. I am not throwing my brother under the bus. And that was like the foreshadowing that let me know that she's not going to kill Lulu. Family is everything to rock now, no matter how much she misuses it, mistreats it. Because I equate Rock to ghost in so many ways. But the major way is the way in which she omits information and masks it. As I'm protecting you, the less you know, the more I can protect you. And she sees herself as the protector of the family. And so that question is, what I got for you, as you segued into it, amazingly great. How does her loyalty impact the rest of this? [00:52:51] Speaker D: It's either all or none. It's either we all go down or ain't nobody going to go down. And I think that's where Rock is. Rock is not going to give up herself. She's not going to give up her family for someone else's benefit. If it's not going to benefit us all, then it's not going to benefit any of us. Everybody's going down and Rock ain't going down, and she's going to go down blazing. [00:53:17] Speaker E: If that's fact. [00:53:24] Speaker C: I think Rock is in a panic and it's like, yeah, hear me out. It's like you take a machine gun and put a bunch of holes in a rowboat, you know what I'm saying? Now you sitting there trying to plug the holes with your fingers and toes so the fucking ship don't sink, right? But I think that's where she's at with everything. But at the same time, she realizes with Lulu that what's his name, Marvin, is correct. He does need our help, but she's only willing to help him because it shuts him not. Yeah, as she's loyal to her brother and her family. She's not going to kill her brother. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Don't kill me, Rock. [00:54:23] Speaker C: Don't let her kill me. That begging shit was killing me, but you know what I'm saying? I think this is the only moment that she thought to listen to someone else other than herself. [00:54:41] Speaker D: I think when the voiceover was happening as he was driving him down to wherever, until you look the barrel in his eye, every man can stand on their own. Until you look the barrel down its eye. Then you're standing by yourself. [00:55:00] Speaker C: The barrel of a gun. But the barrel of the gun can be your circumstance. [00:55:06] Speaker D: It doesn't have to be a gun. You are faced with your own demise at that point. [00:55:12] Speaker C: Because if you think about it, no one said they was killing this nigga. Nobody said that. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Nobody said shit like nobody said. [00:55:24] Speaker C: Rock ain't had a silence on the whip. Rock ain't have on them black gloves. [00:55:29] Speaker B: No, Evie, let me tell you this. [00:55:31] Speaker D: Everybody's quiet. [00:55:32] Speaker B: You know this. And Vaughn, you know this. And everybody out there in Facebook and YouTube land who's watching us, and everybody who's in the podcast land who's listening to us. We all know the motherfuckers we grew up with. We all know the niggas that we got in our circle. And at the end of the day, if Lou knows what Rock is capable know, and he also knows that Marvin is the german shepherd, the pit bull. He's the one that she goes sick him and he gets him. And I think that the fact that Marvin wasn't giving him anything, I do believe this, though. That was the best way for them to do it, for him to face everything that he thought he could possibly. For him to face death knowing that that was an option, but not actually going through it, the fact that they stayed silent, they stayed vigilant. They said, look, we're going to help our brother one way or another. We don't give a fuck what he think. And Marvin, I think he gave him the drink as like, the last supper before you get the last. [00:56:54] Speaker C: It's your last drink. [00:56:56] Speaker B: This the last drink before you end up in this rehab. And you come out and you are dry. You are on the wagon like this is that aa shit, nigga. And I'm going to give you this. [00:57:08] Speaker D: Piece of solace, but your demons going to still be with you no matter how much therapy and rehab you get. [00:57:13] Speaker B: No, let me say something. I'm going to get personal a little bit. Everybody knew my brother got out, and he's back in right now because he didn't take his meds, he didn't do what he was supposed to do, and he did some shit he wasn't supposed to do. That really is hard to come back from. And now he's back in. He's going to have to serve the rest of his time. Right? It's a little joke, but at least they got two weeks of freedom. You got three. But my thing in that sense is they put him back on the street. Hey, here's your medication. But they never gave him therapy when he was in. I think the therapy combined with the medication is what helps, because the person has to come through therapy with the realization that I have an issue. That's what therapy does. It allows you to recognize and accept the issues you have. My daughter is going to a beta club conversation. My daughter Braylon is going to a beta club. What's it called? Competition. This Friday. And one of the things she's competing in is speech. And her speech because of what's going on. My family and her own personal want is the acceptance of your mental illness, and alcoholism is a mental illness. Like all of these things where we have to accept that we have a problem so that we can begin to fix the issue. We can begin to. Why did I get here? How did I get here? What do I need to do to get, like, people, professionals, people who went to school that can help, need to help. It's not about just taking the meds. It's about going through the journey of figuring out what it is that got me here and how do I navigate life outside of this? [00:59:34] Speaker C: My struggle with Lou is that he reached for the bottle to cope for whatever he was coping with. But I don't see what else this nigga had an issue with. [00:59:50] Speaker B: No, he has two issues now. He has two issues. One snap. No, snaps is not his. [01:00:02] Speaker D: Snap was his. [01:00:03] Speaker B: Huh? [01:00:05] Speaker D: You talking about Lou, right? [01:00:06] Speaker B: Yeah, Lou. [01:00:07] Speaker C: Okay. [01:00:10] Speaker B: No, I'm talking about Lou. His first issue was killing. Oh, you said scrap. [01:00:16] Speaker D: I meant scrap. Yeah, not snap, scrap. [01:00:18] Speaker B: Okay, so scrap, killing scrap. That's his first issue. His second issue is the fact that he feels controlled by his sister. I think one of the worst things that rock did was have that I own you, nigga moment. As much as I love it, as much as I love. [01:00:44] Speaker C: But this is the thing. [01:00:48] Speaker B: You successfully. [01:00:50] Speaker C: Navigated that you got her to leave you the fuck alone. [01:00:54] Speaker B: But he was drinking more after that. [01:00:58] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Once you told her, I'm going back to work. You have to pick that bottle up. You made that choice. [01:01:08] Speaker B: No, everything's a choice, though, son, and we know that. Everything is a choice. I don't care what it is that you're doing. Everything's a choice. Anybody who says I didn't have a choice, they are. Fucking liar. You got a choice. Like, at the end of the day, life is about choices. Every consequence, good or bad, everything you come up with is a decision. It's a decision that you made. And I think people that sometimes end up with fucked up lives have made a bunch of series of fucked up decisions that have gotten them to that point. And the ones who make it out are the ones that acknowledge, yo, I made a mistake. What got Marvin to this point as a man, as a father, it was, I need to own my shit so that I could change my shit. [01:01:59] Speaker D: But he didn't realize that until he went to therapy, which is true, but he was forced to go to therapy, so, like, he went on his own. [01:02:08] Speaker B: But ain't that what's about to happen? [01:02:10] Speaker C: To mean, sometimes you got to have that intervention, you know what I'm saying? Whether it be the law making you make this fucking choice, people making you make the choice. I like the old Luke. [01:02:30] Speaker D: Yeah, drunk Luke. [01:02:33] Speaker C: I can't watch that nigga be stepped. [01:02:36] Speaker D: All the way into the liquor store. [01:02:38] Speaker B: He acted more drunk. He acted like a better drunk this episode than the last episode. I want to get you guys comment. [01:02:45] Speaker C: It, show he was such a fucking baby. It show he a baby brother. And you know what? As the baby brother, I was offended. I was fucking offended because I'm telling you right now, my brothers come through, that we about to kill you, nigga. Do it. [01:03:01] Speaker D: If he was that drunk, the owner of the store shouldn't have sold him any liquor. Like you reek alcohol. [01:03:09] Speaker C: Listen, I'm taking your fucking money. Fuck out of. [01:03:16] Speaker B: Let's. Let's. Let's get into the scene here, okay? [01:03:20] Speaker C: Don Cornelius gonna be knocking on my front door. She did good. [01:03:25] Speaker E: Gonna have a celebration for in a couple of days. She come through? [01:03:31] Speaker B: Don't have time for you right now. [01:03:32] Speaker E: Why? [01:03:32] Speaker C: What you got to do? Where are you going? [01:03:34] Speaker E: Threatening a social worker. It ain't going to make your problems go away. Just going to make it worse. [01:03:38] Speaker C: I'm not worried. [01:03:39] Speaker E: I make one more phone call, and they're going to grab you up and put you Upstate. [01:03:44] Speaker B: I could make phone calls, too. Stories I could tell. This place is they could take you. [01:03:51] Speaker E: I don't give a fuck who your daddy is, was or wasn't. [01:03:55] Speaker C: I'll pull out my belt on your. [01:03:56] Speaker E: Ass right here, right now. You don't speak to your mobile that way. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Canaan is beside himself like he is. [01:04:05] Speaker C: Nah, I wouldn't even be mad at this nigga. I'm not even mad at him for saying what he said. Normally, I don't agree with snitching or running your mouth about nothing, you know what I'm saying? But at some point, I'm getting tired of you sickening your little watchdog on me when all you really have to do is just leave me the fuck alone. [01:04:32] Speaker D: This is how I look at it. Canaan to his family ain't a child anymore. You got to treat him like a man, even though that's his child. I mean, that's her child. He doesn't see himself as a child anymore. Rock has created this monster within both of their lives, and now you got to treat him like a grown man. [01:04:57] Speaker C: Not really, in a sense, if you think about it, he throwing a fucking huge ass temper tantrum just like Tariq. [01:05:06] Speaker B: But that is true. And I believe. And we said this before, I truly believe that that's why he relates to Tariq so much in the flagship power, because he was Tariq throwing a fucking temper tantrum with his goddamn parent and doing way too much. Because, really, let's be real. Canaan ain't ready for the consequences that could possibly come. [01:05:31] Speaker D: You're right. He's not ready. He's nowhere near ready? He's not even 1%, 10% ready. [01:05:37] Speaker B: Because if big Linguini got to put a bullet in his damn head, he ain't going to hesitate. [01:05:44] Speaker C: But he also showed that he run the daddy for protection, too. Because when fame got locked up, he went and got fame off by using his daddy. So use a kid that he need his ass beat. And if I was Raquel, and I know my mama watching, my mama would have ran in my mother fucking mouth. [01:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:14] Speaker D: Marvin just made me chuck on. He told me I pull out his belt, like, dude, he is beyond that right now. [01:06:19] Speaker B: No, listen, Marvin would have whooped that nigga where he stood. I believe Kanan might have tried to squiggle away, but, Marvin, I don't give fuck who you is as a. [01:06:34] Speaker C: But that you got to kind of put that on rock because rock was like, nah, Marvin, chill. [01:06:39] Speaker B: No, because you always know your dog. You always know your pit bull. [01:06:46] Speaker C: Sometimes you got to let that bitch go. [01:06:49] Speaker B: Hey, listen. No, because you don't want that shit. Like, you don't want that shit for your kid. You crazy. [01:06:58] Speaker C: I would rather my kids get it from me to get it from the street. [01:07:04] Speaker B: Listen, a street ass whooping is different. [01:07:07] Speaker C: From mommy and daddy. We love you. Streets don't love you. [01:07:13] Speaker B: Listen, if you. You're right. Streets don't love you. I give you that. [01:07:23] Speaker D: I agree with that, too. [01:07:25] Speaker B: I'm not disagreeing with that. I just think, Eb, you know this, Vaughn. You know this. Even though you know, Vaughn, you have a son, Eb, you two sons and a daughter. Me, three girls, three boys. And even dealing with students, high school students, adult strength is totally different than teenage strength. It's totally different. Nigga. [01:07:54] Speaker D: I will put my little eleven year old. [01:07:58] Speaker B: No, I'll be honest. I will put your motherfucking ass down. Every time Chris tried to swell up. To this day, if Chris tried to swell up, Chris, 25. Chris will go down all day. [01:08:13] Speaker C: Tell you like this. We good for the first 15 minutes. We got to get hours in the first 15 minutes. [01:08:26] Speaker B: The young bucks, they there for the long haul. [01:08:31] Speaker C: 15 minutes. [01:08:32] Speaker B: You got to put them down early like you got chat. [01:08:37] Speaker C: They get three rounds, that's it. After the fourth round, they going to win. But I tell them quick, you'll never know that from me. I never admit it. I tell my kids some shit like, yo. [01:08:55] Speaker B: If you think you about to. [01:08:57] Speaker C: Do some shit, go ahead because I'm a fuck you up. I might not win the fight, but I played dirty. So you're going to remember this shit more than I will. I'm going to get up here and go to sleep at night. You're going to be scarred for life, so keep fucking with me. [01:09:25] Speaker B: So let's get into some predictions. It's episode ten coming up in two weeks. You all, we will not be here next Sunday, so do not tune in. We will be drunk or drunk off a liquor or drunk off of wings. I'll be sleep watching the Super bowl or the Super bowl. You would not even know. [01:09:48] Speaker C: I got to work. [01:09:50] Speaker D: Everybody got to work. [01:09:53] Speaker C: You know I slept. [01:09:56] Speaker B: That's why Super Bowl Monday needs to be a holiday. [01:10:00] Speaker D: Holiday. [01:10:03] Speaker C: Listen, make it a holiday. Out of all the playoff games that were played, I watched six quarters. Six quarters. That's how many quarters I watched of football. I slept through them. [01:10:27] Speaker B: All right. [01:10:30] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:10:30] Speaker B: What's your prediction, Vaughn? [01:10:32] Speaker D: All right, so my prediction is juke is going to end up signing up for some. [01:10:38] Speaker B: She's already signed. [01:10:40] Speaker D: She's going to move forward. It's between the singing gig or the army. And we already know singing gig is out. Army be all you can be. What's his name? Ronnie. Ronnie is going to find a way to take rock out outside of snaps and pop. So I think Ronnie is on his own mission as well as snap and pops on their mission because they fucking up their 401k big time. I don't know about Lou. I'm still up in the air about Lou and famous about to go down as we like. I think this is famous last season. Oh, but an innocent died this last season. That was Gerald's daughter. [01:11:31] Speaker B: That wasn't innocent. She did die. [01:11:34] Speaker C: It don't count. [01:11:35] Speaker B: It don't count. What's your predictions, bro? [01:11:40] Speaker C: All right, so I predict that Ronnie and famous end up sharing the same jail cell. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:52] Speaker C: He's going to be watching them draws. You know what I'm saying? Snaps and pops is going to get killed by Canaan. But Canaan is going to figure out a way to take over his mom's business and force her out. [01:12:11] Speaker D: Okay, that's a strong prediction. [01:12:14] Speaker C: No, because I thought about that for a little bit real quick, because every time you saw Canaan in the flagship show, at least once he got out of jail, they was always, like, in Queens or Brooklyn or some shit sitting in a restaurant. They specify whether it was a chinese restaurant or not, but they was always in the restaurant. And remember Tommy came in, Tommy was eating the ribs, all that shit. [01:12:45] Speaker B: They did specify what kind of restaurant. [01:12:46] Speaker D: Was you got to think about. Remember what Laguini said, that if you fuck up my business, you're done. [01:12:56] Speaker C: Somebody getting cooked. Somebody getting cooked in that shit. [01:13:03] Speaker D: Away, Rock. Because Rock got too much at stake right now. [01:13:07] Speaker C: Yeah, but even if he pushed Raquel out, let's say he pushed her out, right? He still has his own network movement. [01:13:20] Speaker D: Yeah, but you got to look at the flip side to Raquel being pushed out. [01:13:25] Speaker C: No, there is no flip side to it because think about it, the only heroine that's supposed to be getting sold is sold by. That's who. That's who he would end up working with. Right now. He don't got no connect. [01:13:39] Speaker D: So that means Quan and the Italians got to be together. Or they already. [01:13:44] Speaker C: Yeah, they're already together. [01:13:45] Speaker D: Okay. Rock is just extra. [01:13:48] Speaker C: Raquel is the movement. [01:13:52] Speaker D: Right? [01:13:52] Speaker C: Okay. Big linguini put. So Linguini probably get his fucking heroin from Quan, too, but they using the niggas to move it. [01:14:06] Speaker E: Okay. [01:14:06] Speaker D: This is going to be interesting. [01:14:08] Speaker C: Tell him. You got to remember the ultimate goal in this series is for Canaan to have the crown because he has it before he goes to jail, before it ends up being ghosts and Tommy's. So that's what we're doing. We speculating as to how he gets there. [01:14:36] Speaker E: Okay. [01:14:38] Speaker B: Mine is Canon's going to kill Ronnie. [01:14:43] Speaker D: I can see that happening. [01:14:44] Speaker B: Canon is going to kill Ronnie. I think that Howard's going to be straight getting through. I think he's going to kill. I don't think he's going to kill Captain Burke, but he's going to find a way to finesse his way out and make the FBI do his thing. Juke is headed to the army because there's no way out of that shit. [01:15:04] Speaker C: You don't know how to fuck with niggas minds and manipulate. [01:15:08] Speaker B: Big Linguini is going to become the plug for Rock. It's going to continue to be the plug for Rock, but Rock's going to bring Kanan into the fold and then we're going to have a new villain next season. [01:15:18] Speaker C: Or, you know, perhaps there's some unforeseen circumstance that forces Canaan to work with his mother. We didn't think about that because I thought about typical power shit. Somebody always get first forced back into working together because honestly, I think they are stronger together. They might even have to work together. They might even have to work together to take out snaps and pop and. [01:15:51] Speaker B: Lou is in rehab. [01:15:53] Speaker C: I know he's in rehab. [01:15:56] Speaker B: I'm just saying. These are my predictions, Nick. [01:16:00] Speaker C: Betty Ford, they drove that nigga to Betty Ford clinic in the Hamptons. [01:16:04] Speaker B: Vaughn, tell the people how they can find you. [01:16:06] Speaker D: You can always find me on Instagram at one Voncella. You can find me here on new time, new day, Sunday 07:00 p.m. And on Thursdays, you can find me kicking with my crew egi. And you can find me on ex grits and ignorance on Instagram all the time. [01:16:24] Speaker C: Eb. [01:16:24] Speaker B: Tell the people how they can find. [01:16:25] Speaker C: Yo, you can find me on Instagram. That's B-I-G-K-I-D-E-M-V-I. Underscore chops. I'm taking Valentine's Day gifts, too. [01:16:37] Speaker D: Oh, me too. I need a Valentine's Day gift. [01:16:42] Speaker C: No, you already got a daddy. Get out of here. [01:16:45] Speaker D: I got a daddy. [01:16:47] Speaker C: You know who you call daddy? [01:16:50] Speaker E: Interesting. [01:16:51] Speaker B: The preview of the season finale shows rock. Unless that's just what they want us to. No, no. I think she gets shot at, but I don't think it's. [01:17:03] Speaker C: More. I think that's more Ronnie and them. [01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I think she gets shot at, but I think that's what brings Canaan back to the think I want to that. It's one thing to talk that talk. It's a whole nother thing to see your moms get shot at and be. [01:17:21] Speaker C: The niggas that did it. [01:17:23] Speaker B: And knowing the niggas that did it, I think it's a little bit different. What you about to say, vaughn? [01:17:28] Speaker D: I just want to know what exactly rock did to Ronnie for him to hate her so much. [01:17:32] Speaker C: Like, I want to give a no pussy something. [01:17:36] Speaker B: As the young people say today, she was the ops. All right? [01:17:40] Speaker D: She was the fuz. [01:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah, she was the fuz. You can find me on Snapchat and Instagram at the 9th wonder, on Twitter, aka x, at I am coachy underscore, and on Facebook at Yoshi English. Until next time, y'all, we're out.

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